Chicagoist: NYC Can Bite Our Weenies

Thewiseragamuffin

Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:10:55 -0600

Why does Chicago always have to compare itself to NY? I've never been there, but it seems it may have an inferiority complex. Get over your pizza and hot dogs and get a life. Chicago is probably a nice little town, but come on, you guys are not New York! Grow up and stop being so jealous!

Norman Katz

Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:14:30 -0600

Can anyone give me an address, E Mail or snail mail or the company that produces Best Dinner Franks. I understand they are in the Chicago area. Im'm in the Phoenix area and am trying to find where to buy them

Jon

Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:04:24 -0600

Hot dogs? I thought this was a blog about NYC dog walkers? Re.: what's an NYC hot dog? First off it needs to be prepared by someone with very dirty hands / hands that have not been washed in days and it has to be washed down with a $2.50 can of soda. Seriously though - I don't think it gets any better than a dog at Gray's Papaya, in New York City, on 72nd and broadway.

Brook Lynn

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:34:44 -0600

Just read the post from Nomad, and.... EXACTLY! SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT CHICAGO vs NYC! IT REEKS OF YOUR INSECURITY ABOUT HOW YOU WERE NEVER QUITE IN THE COOL CROWN IN HIGH SCHOOL. GET OVER IT.

Brook Lynn

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:31:13 -0600

AGAIN with the second-city inferiority complex! I can't wait for tomorrow's Chicagoist when we get the latest in "fat girls are totally cool and cute"... Chicagoist, I wanted to love you, but you only reinforce the stereotype...

chopped liver

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:52:40 -0600

Well said Nomad, this does come off as a bit pathetic and a lot of these posts are only giving smug new yorkers more ammo. As a 10 yr. Chicagoan I have to say NY style pizza is the best no question but for Hot Dogs it's Chicago easily NYC can't even make a squawk about that, ketchup on hot dogs is discusting and as one poster mentioned it makes me think of a baby eating a cut up weiner with it's hands. It's also gross on cheeseburgers IMHO.

nomad

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:29:27 -0600

Sigh ... Frank's actually right in my opinion. I'm from nowhere ... military brat, so I lay no claim to the east coast or the midwest. I've lived in Chicago for eight years. This whole Chicago vs. New York thing is usually started by Chicagoans and it always strikes me as sort of immature and sad. The second city moniker is deserved and will always be applied to Chicago simply because Chicagoans give a flying damn. If a Parisian said Paris is better than Amsterdam or Rome, etc., would the Amsterdammers or Romans give a shit? Of course not. C'mon! Chicago's not New York. Never will be. Why do so many people here have a chip on their shoulder about it? Do you like alleys that hide all the trash and electricity wires, and decent parking, and cheap big apartments, and a skyline you can see while still in the city, and an awe-inspiring river canyon unlike any other in the world, in a great city with the largest population of lifelong residents in the U.S., giving it that old-school hometown charm? Great! Chicago rocks! Do you like living in the largest city in the United States where everybody's on top of each other, forming a transient ever-changing mixture of cultures like no other place in the world, and so much is right outside your door and with the U.S.'s most impressive transit system and opportunites for artists, filmmakers, musicians and actors unlike anywhere else? Great! New York rocks! Now shut up and eat your Chicago hot dog. I get mine with everything. They are the best indeed, but I still can't wait for my trip to New York this fall.

miss ellen

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:17:14 -0600

The Backer

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:27:26 -0600

I have to add my two cents (when don't I) ... not enough south side on this list! My favorite dogs are from 1) Pop's 127th & Harlem 2) The Cell, any Kosher along the first base line 3) Janson's 99th & Western (filmed Crime Story here ... remember that Dennis Farina fans?)

tony

Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:06:53 -0600

I never was a fan of the dirty water dog during my stint in the city, but often times it was the only thing I could afford for lunch... also, you can't beat the recession special at Gray's Papaya in terms of value. In any case, I'll take a nice Vienna Beef any day.

Stanley

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:56:26 -0600

I used to respect New Yorkers. Then I went to college on the East Coast, and I was shocked by the sheer number of unprovoked remarks made about my hometown by NYCers. Fuck you, Frank. Don't like Chicagoans? Take your cooler-than-thou NYC attitude back to NoSoLoHoBecaSlopeburg or wherever it is you're from.

Justin

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:51:35 -0600

Clearly after eating half a dozen different dogs in both cities, we're all more than capable of being the authority on this issue. So let me just add: NYC, Pro: they gave us the tasty foot-long kosher dog. Con: they also have vendors serving weenies soaked in nasty water all afternoon. Chgo, Pro: encased meats truly taste best charbroiled and the array of toppings is impressive. Con: establishments like Weiner's Circle, Demon Dogs (RIP), and Byron's are overrated, trying to exploit the Chicago Dog reputation.

MikeH

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:18:24 -0600

You're welcome, Frank... We've always had a knack for not proving points. Or is it not NOT proving points? Or shouldn't the negative be eliminated altogether if we are proving your point? Or are you just being sarcastic? Damn you and your East Coast highbrow ways, Frank!!

NYC Bob

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:57:41 -0600

Hey, I'm a New Yorker, and I can tell you that Chicago style Dogs are the best. You can get a halfway decent one at the Shake Shack at 23rd and Madison Ave. It don't compare to Herm's in Skokie, but it keeps me fed in between visits to Chicago.

g

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:51:34 -0600

I refuse to believe that there is any such thing as a "New York style" hot dog. Any hot dog I have ever had in NYC has been just like hot dogs everywhere else--except Chicago, of course.

Frank

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:01:48 -0600

Hey Michael and Stanley, Thanks for NOT proving my point about how petty and hyper-sensitive Chicagoans are when it comes to NYC!!! You are both cery cool.

stanley

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:30:43 -0600

Hey Frank, Go back to your roach-infested, $2000/month one-room apartment and keep trying to convince yourself that misanthropy and arrogance are somehow synonymous with sophistication. What's the matter, Noo Yawk? You love dishing it out, but you sure can't take it.

Michael

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:47:07 -0600

Hey Frank... Sorry we're not cool enough for you. I always thought a healthy rivalry was good. At any rate, unless you're a five-year old, ketchup on a hotdog really does suck, so what do you know?

Julene

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:45:26 -0600

GQ named Weiner's Circle char dog as a dish worth traveling for in the August issue.

Mike Royko

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:36:26 -0600

What is a Chicago-style pizza? You may argue that it's the deep dish pizza that a Texan, Ike Sewell foisted on us, but I argued it's the crispy thin-crust pizza that was popular long before Sewell and his chef Lou Malnati opened Pizzeria Uno in 1948.

Zak

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:51:45 -0600

NYC dogs are as good, but different. BUT...ANYONE who says NYC pizza is better is full of crap. It's flimsy, wimpy, floppy grease bread! In Chicago, PIZZA IS A MEAL.

Frank

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:48:11 -0600

Actually NYC hot dogs are quite good. All this posturing just makes Chicago seem more pathetic because we care about whose got the best hot dog. I guarantee that no one in NYC gives a shit about this. NYC pizza is better too...but who cares? It's food. I love this city but everyone here has this sad-little-brother-low-self-esteem-complex when it come to NYC. Please shut up about this. You can be proud of who you are without comparing yourself to others.

Benjy

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:40:19 -0600

Jen, I thought Calatrava had designed some high rise condo building with stacked cubes for NYC? And there's no way that a Best Kosher dog at U.S. Cellular with the grilled onions isn't the best stadium dog anywhere!

tien

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:28:00 -0600

chicago can't even win best hot dog for a ballpark? that's foul.

Jen

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:25:34 -0600

Hey, you can't a Calatrava building and the best hot dogs, okay? We're just getting a PATH hub from him.

FormerNYer

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:22:34 -0600

Both vienna beef and nathan's (or whomever they use) in NYC would both get crush by these guys... http://www.zweigles.com/

Mr. Smith

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:18:13 -0600

A NY style hot dog sounds like ass on bread.

NotSoHealthy

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:10:15 -0600

Erin make sure to add Jeff's on Cicero and Irving to that short list of great dogs! (oh yeah and take superdawg off they suck)

Erin

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:10:02 -0600

According to the Sun-Times ... A New York-style hot dog varies depending on who's making it but generally includes mustard and sauerkraut in a plain bun. Onions, relish and -- horror of horrors -- ketchup are typical add-ons.

a

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:07:55 -0600

it's been cleared by homeland security and instead of a bun it comes wrapped in a slice of greasy pizza.

tankboy

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:06:07 -0600

NYC is just worried about the new catchphrase that's sweeping the nation: Chicago is the new New York. So they'll do whatever they can to take any wind out of our sails...

Joel

Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:05:10 -0600

What exactly is a New York-style hot dog?