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Today’s modern world presents us with problems that we can’t even begin to fully comprehend. From scares ranging from bird flu to terrorism, we often find ourselves lost and seeking comfort. Fear not, dear Chicagoans. Help is on its way. Alderman Burton Natarus (42nd) is here to spare us from a plague that seeks to threaten all that is good in this world. That’s right, street performers.
Because Chicago has run out of real problems to solve, for the second time in six years Natarus has proposed an ordinance to cut down on the noise and activity of street performers. The Sun-Times explains the details of Natarus’ proposed ordinance:
The cornerstone is a volume of street music that is four times lower than the current limit…The new standard would be nothing more than an average conversational level from 50 feet away.
Street performers would also be required to pay a $150 permit fee, wear a photo identification tag at all times, steer clear of the "highly congested area on the east side of Michigan Avenue" between Delaware and Superior, and stay away from Randolph between Columbus and Michigan, and Columbus between Michigan and Monroe whenever concerts are under way at the Jay Pritzker Pavilion at Millennium Park.
In addition to those restrictions, the stricter ordinance would allow the Department of Cultural Affairs to have control in “governing the time, place, manner and duration” of street performances.
In 1999 he wanted to ban performers completely from Michigan Avenue and State Street, but later compromised to limit their volume after some performers accused him of “urban cleansing.”
Mayor Daley has called street performers a “part of urban life,” but Natarus says he is just standing up for his constituents’ right to live in peace and quiet. Apparently his constituents also hate panhandlers, cell phones, and smoking bans.
Chicagoist is taking Daley’s side on this one. Even if the noise can be a little annoying from time to time, wouldn’t you miss the street performers? Kind of like how you will miss the sweet, sweet smell of delicious chocolate? If the performers are bothering you so much, then maybe Naperville is more your speed.
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seriously. if you can't take the kids beating on plastic barrels, get the hell out of the kitchen.
Hurray for Alderman Natarus for wanting to get rid of these annoying (and usually far less than talented) sidewalk blockers!
Ah, Burt "Get off my lawn" Natarus.
Didn't he want to silence the tour boats as well?
Daley as the voice of reason, hmm sad but true. Move out of the city Natarus if you don't want to live in one. What next remove the loop el because it makes noise? Let's strip Chicago of all things that make it Chicago.
Having now lived the past few years in the Loop, and being willing to put up with a lot of noise, nothing, absolutely nothing is as annoying as the sound of buckets being drummed upon.
Yes the “L” is noisy, but it’s not constant sound going on for hours at a time, and I no issues with other intermittent sounds such as ambulances, fire trucks, garbage trucks, and taxi cab drivers honking their horns because the light is red (and the car in front of them won't move). I can also tolerate the constant sound of saxophone player in need of lessons, Christmas "Muzak" blaring from Daley Plaza, even the incessant preacher in front of Old Navy. These are all part of living in the city; I knew that when I signed the dotted line.
But, the buckets have got to go. I should not have to be subjected to the sound of buckets being pounded at a level where the sound permeates and overrides all other sound around me. I should be able to enjoy time in my home without having to wear headphones to block out the banging. It’s not about who is doing the banging, it is about the disturbance the sound makes for the quality of life. I could care less it people want to sit on the sidewalk, beg for money and play instruments, but
I doubt any of you would put up with it in your neighborhood, and shouldn’t have to either.
Here is the point that maybe everyone but Devyn is missing. Natarus is acting upon requests from people who live in his ward and are being effected. The rest of us don't live here, so the bucket boys for 2 hours as we walk downtown on a saturday is fine. But if you live in one of the buildings above where they play for 12 hours, hell yes that would get annoying. And if anyone really believes that any of the street performers on Michigan Avenue can't afford that permit fee, you're crazy.
I think there's a big difference between the people playing actual music and the kids with buckets. I hate those no-talent kids. But I don't know how you craft an ordinance that prohibits pounding on buckets that doesn't affect the real musicians.
And while Natarus does represent his residents, he needs to remember that there are 49 other wards in this city.
The other 49 wards do not elect him. Nor should he care what they think. I don't want my Congressman worrying about what people in Schaumburg think. And I don't think that people who live in the Loop should be trying to impose their wishes on the people who live in other parts of the city. What I am saying is, you can make fun of Natarus for all of the weird "Quality of Life" issues, but for the people who live in his ward, these are the issues that they have elected him to fight for.
Swell. But I hope he'll forgive me if I have a bit of a problem with him imposing his residents' will on the rest of the city.
Try this folks. Ask the bucket brigade to come and beat on their buckets outside the windows of your outer neighborhood home for 12 hours on the weekend until 10 pm and see how much you like it.
Downtown is my neighborhood. It is my home. I pay taxes like everyone else. In fact, living downtown, I pay more. The best way to get me and many others to leave downtown, and make it an unpopulated, dangerous overnight wasteland again, is to ridicule and ignore my right to quality of life.
The bucket brigade is intrusively loud, not just audible but intrusively loud, as in siren or jackhammer loud, a block away and nine floors up. If you think they're loud on the ground, get a clue. Sound travels upwards.
They're no talent, obnoxious begging tactics were old when they were first practiced in New York City in the early 1990s. I can't believe bleeding hearts in Chicago are still falling for their crap in 2005 Chicago.
My pet peeve is with the bucket players. I wouldn't want to see street performers go away, lest it feel like Lawrence, KA. But the bucket players create a racket unlike no other in the Loop.
As the East side of the Loop becomes more residential/mixed use (which is part of Da Mare's plan), quality of life becomes a higher priority.
Oh, and in response to the severely misinformed Amy Hart's question, no. I would not miss the bucket brigade.
How DARE you ridicule my desire and right to the same quality of life that all Chicagoans desire and deserve? How DARE you make me a whipping boy because I live downtown.
How DARE you think, or even consider, that my needs are somehow less because I have chosen to live downtown? Just where do you get off making that kind of a judgment?
Chicagoist should be absolutely ashamed of itself for letting an article so unbelievably jugmental and biased be posted.
I think we're concentrating on the bucket players, because they're the ones in the picture. But, how do you Loop dwellers feel about traditional street performers? Granted, I don't live in the Loop, so you're right I don't know what it's like to live with, but don't you think there should be a way to deal with the annoying performers without punishing everyone else. It just seems that Natarus is going after all street performers just to get to the few irritating ones. That's my $0.02 anyway.
i can hear the buckets from my office on the 31st floor of a building nearby.and some untalented guy playing the same 3 lines of jingles bells on his sax over and over can be annoying too... but i wouldnt think of getting rid of either. it's what makes a city a city.
Just set a damn decible standard and be done with it. Even the musicians that people like should have to keep the noise down. It's not that hard, people.
I think we found our candy complainer...
The normal street performers with permits follow the rules (usually). And they usually don't show up with four people and four drums.
I do think that there are streets wher performers simply should not be during the holidays for sheer safety. In front of Field's during holiday weekends is beyond crowded. When performers are on the sidewalk edge (as they have been for the past three weekends), hundreds of people have been regularly walking off the sidewalk into oncoming traffic around them to get down to get by. Just because someone has a permit to blow a saxophone doesn't mean someone else should have to be hit by a car.
The problem is in that Chicago's laws regarding downtown street performers are from a different era. There is a different number and mix of people on downtown streets today than in decades past. The laws should be changed to reflect current needs and realities. And a big reality is that residents live upstairs now, all over downtown. And people, whether beggars or charities, should not be allowed to play musical instruments all day and all night underneath someone's living room or bedroom window.
I'm okay with street performers who actually play music. Those kids that bang on buckets are a disturbance.
I'll concede that the bucketboyz need to go or at least be regulated since they're responsible for the most intense racket but it would be very unfair to punish other musicians because of them. I personally love having the street musicians around. And Mike chill out with "how DARE you" shit the only thing missing from your post is a "My God think of the children!!!"
But, Rachelle, what if you had to listen to them all day at work and then when you got home they were still there? I'm not saying that they should be gone. I'm not saying that I agree with Natarus. I'm just pointing out that I can understand why the residents would get tired of it after a while. An enforced decibal level is the way to go, but then who pays for the extra cops to enforce it?
Dear Mike--We're not talking just about the bucket brigade here. All performers would be subject to the same rules. Yes, I do agree that quality of life is a very important issue, but street performers seem to be affecting your quality of life in a very extreme way. My point is that Natarus seems to focus a lot on these types of issues repeatedly when maybe there are important things to consider.
Can anyone recommend any street performers who are actually good?
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ah yes, that has happened to me before. not in chicago, but when i was living in ny, at like midnight, the sax player. it's annoying but i dont know if that guy should have been arrested or something. i've always just seen it as something that goes along with living in the city. guy's just trying to make a dime like the rest of us.
the guys on the washington blue line platform are good. they're always by that guy who sketches portraits.
Mike, that's so awesome of you to link to your own website on which you illogically rip apart Amy's story and then only allow the comments with which you agree. Well played, Doyle, well played.
I'd hate to see street *performers* go... but I don't think Natarus' proposal would eliminate street *performers*.
First, it will help keep the volumes down--which whether a repetitive xmas sax or the bucket brigade--is not a bad thing.
Second, I think it will up the quality. The license fee of $150 a year seems steep, but I think a *good* performer could manage it. If the tips from performing are worth it, a performer will pay. Meanwhile, four kids with plastic buckets probably won't. But if they do--and they keep it down--then who cares?
maybe there should just be time limits. like don't play the buckets after 10 pm and before 6am or something.
For those who keep saying "There are more important things to worry about". The 42nd Ward represents the Loop, River North, Streeterville and the Gold Coast. With that type of constituent income level, these ARE the major issues to these people. Noise, development, parking. It's not the same world as the rest of the city, and the area most likely generates over 50% of the tax base.
Jake, still waiting for you to comment on my site. Sitll waiting. Where's that comment, Jake?
Thanks "just a point"
I'll mind my p's and q's when I'm in THEIR neighborhood.
Man, I hate hearing the bucketboys when I come downtown. They sure do suck, but not as much as Mike Doyle, "urban planner". You sure didn't plan your urban experience very well when you moved here, did ya? My advice: remember that you're not the only MF in the city. Oh, and stop typing, please. Your idiotic words are ruining my internet neighborhood.
For all the whiners and bitchers about the street musicians, of whatever sort, playing in/on their home turf---all I can say is the chances are pretty likely that the street musicians were playing there long before you moved your ass into the 'hood...much like the lovely smell of chocolate was too. Bottom line, maybe YOU should've taken a stronger, harder look around your neighborhood overall instead of being shallowly swayed by the "trendiness" of the over-priced pad you paid for.
But when I moved into the DOWNTOWN area of the third largest city in the U.S. I expected or should I say felt entitled to quiet country living. After all I'm ME, ME ME!!!
No Michelle. No Carl. In the United States I have a right to live wherever I want to, I have right to complain about quality of life wherever I live, and I have a right to stay where I have decided to live. It always amazes me how people get so defensive in Chicago when another resident, or Alderman for that matter, takes their head out of the sand and says that there's a problem. And then eveyone else takes their head out of the sand and defends the status quo to the death.
And next time you come downtown to play, Shelly, ask yourself about your own shallow trendiness.
I see it both ways. I do enjoy many of the street performers along Michigan Ave. when I am walking along the street shopping, etc. And view them as part of a city's vibrancy and I'd certainly be more open to donating money to somebody in return for a show than to somebody who's simply begging.
On the other hand, my grandparents live in a highrise just off Michigan Ave. and from their 19th floor apt. a number of the performers can be heard pretty clearly. It's one thing to hear the bucket boys for 5 minutes. It's another when they're playing non-stop from 10 am until 10 pm.
I agree that Natarus can be a bit wacky at times, but he also represents people who have paid a lot of money for their properties and it isn't unrealistic to expect some sort of limitations on excessive noise in residential (or mixed use) areas.
Doyle: I don't have a problem with Ald. Natarus or his plan. I disagree with it, but I'm not a resident of his ward. If it's got the votes, oh well.
I do have a problem with you and your general attitude. You're snide, rude, and condescending. In short, you're scum. Though you do have the right to pull your head out of whatever sand you live in and say whatever you want, don't be upset when people comment on the ugliness of your head and the bile it spews.
DOYLE- YOur actions and comments are exactly why people in the "rest" of the city do not care about your "quality of life". And not driving a car does not make you special. It makes you stubborn, arrogant or Amish.
Bottom line, maybe YOU should've taken a stronger, harder look around your neighborhood overall instead of being shallowly swayed by the "trendiness" of the over-priced pad you paid for.
Posted by: Michelle
Michelle, I don't exactly think living in the Loop is "trendy". If I wanted trendy, I wouldn't have chosen the Loop. I chose the loop because as a kid, growing up in suburban California, I was drawn to the heart of the city. Most people look at the downtown area as a place for the wealthy. Well... I am hardly wealthy. I am a middle class person, living on a middle class income, who happens to think livin in the middle of it all is about as close to paradise as I can get. I got lucky and found a small place I could afford in the epicenter of the city. I willingly gave up having a car, and square footage, But...Just because I live in the Loop doesn't mean I don't deserve the same quality of life as those who chose to live in any other neighborhood. I have nothing against street performers, nor do I have any kind of expactations that I am living in a quiet area. But when I am inside my home, with the windows closed, I shouldn't have to listen to boys banging on buckets two blocks away.
Nuf said.
When this thing passes I will personally go down to city hall and pay the Bucket Brigade's license fee in honor of Mike Doyle.
Oh man. Let's leave the Amish out of this.
Devyn, if that's the case, when your windows are closed, I'd think you'd also not want to hear sirens or the L or any other 'sounds' of the city. You CHOSE to live there and if you would've looked around and asked around you would've been informed (probably fairly quickly) that those Bucket Boys were a regular part of the neighborhood.
There are plenty of areas in the city that can give 'urban' lifestyle to it's inhabitants without having to live 'in the loop' and if you're honest about it, your middle class ways are in the minority in that particular 'hood these days. If living there wasn't 'trendy' it would cost so much to do so.....logic quite easily dictates it in that location as well as others (lakeview, lincoln park, etc.).
I love it. I really do. I'm beyond positive that most of the people participating in this comment thread are never downtown. Most of you work outside of downtown, perhaps come downtown once a week or month to go to a reataurant or club--and even then you're more than likely in River North or the Gold Coast and no further south than that, and more than likely are only actually downtown when you have to go to a special appointment, an official office, or at Christmas to see the Field's windows. And you think you have any standing to tell those of us who actually live in this neighborhood what the legitimate and non-legitimate problems are for residents of this neighborhood. Calling me a yuppie, or trendy, or "scum" is silly. I live here. you don't. I know the problems that come with living here. And unless you live here, you don't know them. And it's not your right to tell me that my problems as a resident of my neighborhood are not legitimate.
Damn Doyle, obviously your head isn't the only thing up your ass...maybe if you pulled the stick and your actual brain out of it, you'd realize that pretty much anyone who's paying taxes in this city do have a right to state their opinion about legislation (or proposed legislation) that affects the city.
Then let's hear your comments about the legislation, Michelle. Your initial two comments have told me at length why the lifestyle and opinions of downtown residents are not valid. Your actual opinion about the proposed legislation, however, is entirely absent in your comments.
Yeah, I'm really indifferent to this whole issue, but man >> "Mike Doyle, urban planner" you are really not helping your argument out here.
Your blog is such a delightful mixture of incoherent, mean-spirited rants and expletives. Where do you come up with this stuff?
Equating the annoying rattle of a couple of twelve-year olds drumming on buckets with being raped?! Surely, you are better suited to the literary world, rather than urban planning.
Actually, I think the world would be better much served with you doing a lot more "urban planning", and a lot less blogging.
This is important folks I beg your urgency to the forthcoming matter.
It is up to all of us to make sure Sir Michael Doyle enjoys his stay in Chicago. You see Michael loves the sounds of buckets and the best way to make sure the buckets stay at his favorite location (State and Washington) is to give! That's right let your wallet talk give and give as much as you can to the kids with the buckets and let them know that it is in honor of Mike Doyle.
Then let the bucket boys know about Mike Doyle and his love of buckets and ask them to show up all winter.
Michelle, as I said in my earlier comment:
"Yes the “L” is noisy, but it’s not constant sound going on for hours at a time,
and I no issues with other intermittent sounds such as ambulances, fire trucks,
garbage trucks, and taxi cab drivers honking their horns because the light is
red (and the car in front of them won't move). I can also tolerate the constant
sound of saxophone player in need of lessons, Christmas "Muzak" blaring from
Daley Plaza, even the incessant preacher in front of Old Navy. These are all
part of living in the city; I knew that when I signed the dotted line."
I hardly have middle class ways, those who know me would be hard pressed to put me and "middle class" in the same sentence. What I do have is a middle class income, but don't confuse that as being "middle class". As far as choosing other urban nabes, I can't afford many of them. I live in about the lowest cost lofts you can buy in the Loop. One bdrms can go for under 200K (which would be a bargain in quite a few neighborhoods), and I paid much less in 2002.
No, I equated the response to being raped with the respone from Amy Hart regarding people downtown complaining about neighborhood problems that she did not deem in her article to be valid or important. Problems come in big and small packages, and just because my hot button isn't yours doesn't mean it's less valid or, in terms of the bucket brigade beggars, not illegal.
On my blog, I also equated being told in response to being raped to move, because the problem was not going to be addressed, with what I (and others) were told last year in Logal Square when a series of strong-arm robberies happened across the neighborhood. I and others were told by the police, on several occasions, to move, and that we should have known better than to live in that neighborhood. Amy being told the same thing is not far-fetched at all.
It all comes down to blaming the victim. And it's never fair.
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Awww, the joyous sounds of living in the middle of the city. And no buckets being banged on to mess it up.
yes, and we are all the victims of your terrible analogies.
Also, let's not pretend that the Bucket Boys are your average street performer. They also perform at the end of the 3rd Quarter at every Bulls home game. I don't think that the permit fee is going to be a problem for them.
Mike,
You must have lived in a good part of Logan Square - the cops never even bothered to show up in my area when people were being stabbed/shot/or sold drugs. So I never even got to chance to ask them if I should move or not.
People, people...
Please lay off Mr. Doyle. You're distracting him from the busy work of planning the urban fabric of our fair city.
And Mike, comparing the Bucket Brigade to a rapist is entirely unfair. After all, what rapist would continue performing all day in front of the Art Institute?
it's official! this is the hottest post of the year!
for the record, all the dipshits complaining about the bucket brigades should know that peoria is lovely this time of year. this ain't smallville, kids. it's a big city. that means you'll hear all manner of noise and you should cowboy up. if you can't take it, move somewhere else.
get rid of bucket boys. get rid of smoking. christ, whatever happened to being at least sort of urbane?
I think we've got a contender for "most comments" at the next happy hour.
Stephen I think this will fall in the category of "easiest to bait"
Either way, I'm getting a damn t-shirt next time!
Mike--I have read my post and your post several times, and I still don't really understand what your problem with my stance is. Basically, all I said is that I agree with Daley on this one, and you have taken that to mean I want the downtown residents to "drop dead," a position I do not comprehend. It sounds like your beef might be with Daley and not with this lowly blogger. Also, rape and muggings are public safety issues, not quality of life issues, and should be dealt with in a completely different manner. I spend most of my waking hours downtown and care deeply about the area, as I do about Chicago in its entirety. I understand why some people are for Natarus' position, and others against it, but I do not understand your anger at those who are against it. Anyway, that is all. I feel like I have already spent way too much time on this issue.
Mike Doyle, next time I'm in the Loop I'm tipping every one of those musicians an extra five spot just because I know it pisses you off so. What a dick.
Doyle, I know I shouldn't stoop to even wasting my time to answer your question, but for once you actually have a point---so, my stand/opinion on this particular proposed legislation is that it's crap.....street musicians (MUSICIANS doyle, not just the drummers) in all forms make up one part of the fabric that is 'the loop'. Hell, they even have specialized events and celebratory times of year to encourage them and their art, because that's what it is--a form of art. So, to me this particular craptastic piece of legislature is nothing more than one man's grandstand to make the 'urban' areas of our city more specified to the 'non-urban' people who now (or want to) inhabit it...legislation such as this does nothing to preserve the diversity that has always been a part of this city--street musicians are as much a part of that diversity as the yupsters who've taken over the neighborhoods they used to fully inhabit. Basically, I think it's yet another one of his tactics to try to make this city as 'white' as possible because he buys into the propoganda of a superior race, though he'd never admit to it.
Keep in mind, that's a personal OPINION....here's a definition Doyle, in case you can't quite figure out what it truly means:
"A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof".
Here's another opinion for you:
With this guy as an "urban planner" it's a wonder there's any urban left to this city--he'd be far better off in the BF Iowa...in fact, he'd fit right in during one of my hometown meetings so it seems.
Felt good to get that off my chest.
If you think black kids or kids of any color or ethnicity playing buckets downtown somehow says that Chicago is not segregated, then there are fifty years of racial tensions that you haven't been paying attention too. A black family walking down the street in Lincoln Park and not getting any stares, that would be the hallmark of a less racist city. And if you want to define illegal activities as the hallmark of an acceptable urban environment, why aren't you living in Detroit, or D.C., or any other city with a higher crime rate than Chicago? Or ar you just so used to downtown being "craptastic" that you can't conceive of it being any other way, like liveable?
Those kids with the buckets are not licensed. If a cop sees them, he chases them. I saw it happen again last week.
Aren't the motorcycles at 3:00 a.m. a bigger noise problem (only in summer)?
Mike, all I can say about you is---you're a imbecilic idiot no doubt about it. You couldn't make a good argument for your position if someone held a gun to your head and tried to force you to do it. Good thing I'm a proponent of free speech so you can actually put your idiocy out there for the entire Chicagoist public to see.
Loud motorcycles, bucket drummers, preachers with megaphones, overly amplified christmas carols being played at linens and things, asshole neighbors blasting the stereo -- TURN THE SHIT DOWN!! There are a few milliion of us all occupying a small space here. Have a little consideration.
The buckets must violate the already existing noise ordinance. My guess is that it is tolerated to some extent but definitely not legal. This new proposal is a way of going after the repeat offenders. I doubt it will be strictly enforced unless squeaky wheels need some grease. Like it or not, Natarus is responding to his constituency.
Skateboarding is banned downtown. Why isn't everyone protesting this travesty? I don't understant this attitude that if you don't like listening to drumming buckets for nine hours, then you're an evil demon yuppie from Naperville bent on destroying the fragile artistic fabric of the Loop. Give me a break. I wonder how many of the people who say this kind of stuff were even born in Chicago. My grandmother has lived in Chicago all of her life. If some kids were banging buckets outside her window all day, she'd call the alderman. As the Loop gets more residential, what do you expect?
Natarus's Disneyfication of the city would result in nothing but mimes approved by the Culture Police being allowed to perform, and I think we can all agree that mimes are the biggest threat we face.
Aren't the motorcycles at 3:00 a.m. a bigger noise problem (only in summer)?
This was another issue Natarus dealt with a few years back...
Guess what: Downtown is becoming more residential, and unless you don't like the tax and other economic benefits this brings to Chicago, learn to deal with the concerns of residents in that area. That's part of the city, too. (I don't live downtown, by the way, and I like street musicians of all kinds.) I find it funny that all the people who want to preserve the quirky nature of the city (that is, unlimited street performances) seem naive about the economic underpinnings of the city, especially as the Loop revives. Grow up. And Doyle-lay off the melodrama, man.
The Sun-Times steals Chicagoist's thunder...
http://www.suntimes.com/output/commentary/cst-edt-edits06.html
I think the alderman in this city have way too much free time. Foie Gras bans, Street Musician Bans, smoking bans and the likes. Can we not let the city be the city and stop trying to make so many rules.
Some of the bucket kids are badasses though, they got really good rhythm, so before you call them talentless hacks, you try to bang a bucket with perfect time for a couple hours.
I can see the point of residents saying it is loud, but then again it is the city. By living downtown, you knew it was going to be louder than other neighborhoods in the city that are merely blocks away (i.e. The South Loop)
Loud Noises!!!!!
"Jake, still waiting for you to comment on my site. Sitll waiting. Where's that comment, Jake?" -Mike Doyle
Funny I posted on your blog but you didn't put it up. Too close to home I guess.
You can't be 72255 serious?!?