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The American Racing Pigeon Union says that Chicago is the only city that bans pet pigeons and that it's not fair. On Thursday, a US Circuit Courts of Appeals judge upheld a lower ruling on the ban against some claims by enthusiasts that the ordinance is unconstitutional. Karl Wollenhaupt, who is a member of the Chicago racing pigeon club, says "This sport has been in existence for hundreds of years, but the city says these birds are bad, dirty and evil. These are birds of pedigree."
The case pitted the property rights of about 70 members of Chicago's pigeon-racing club, the Greater Chicago Combine and Center, against their neighbors who complained about the cooing noise, tons of scattered feathers, and droppings everywhere. The ruling said that balancing the interests of pigeon club members and their neighbors was not the court's role.
What do you think? Should people be able to keep and race pigeons? Are we more prejudiced against them in cities because we see the "wild" ones making messes everywhere? It seems like even these trained & vaccinated pets were making a mess of the neighborhood, so why should they be allowed?
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i also heard somewhere that it is illegal to feed pigeons, but that doesn't stop that f'n lady with the can of bread crumbs feeding them under the g-d quincy stop. i'm not opposed to feeding birds, but do it somewhere that woun't cause them to shit all over the sidewalk... seriously, with pigeons it is straight from beak to ass... pooping machines.
race your pigeon! don't let the man stop you! and if they try, let your bird peck their eyes out.
i say bring on the race pigeons. more dinner for me!
Rats with wings. Dirty filthy creatures that shite all over my back porch.
Chicago - the first city to show they are ignorant of history... and all this time I thought Chicago was a city of intelligence - boy was I wrong!
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As one that has raised birds since childhood I must say that this ruling on racing pigeons just goes to show that the court system is becoming less educated in the history of our forefathers and is more concerned with the ignorance of the public showing itself that the present legal system is continuing to play on dangerous ground.
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If it wasn't for these flying athletes companies such as Reuters News Service, American Express, and the Rothschild's must admit the success of their financial fortunes is directly related to the history of pigeons in their respective organizations -
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- Not to mention the thousands of lives that have been saved during the first world wars due to the heroic efforts of these birds determined to find their way home and bring messages to their military commands.
Chicago - the first city to show they are ignorant of history... and all this time I thought Chicago was a city of intelligence - boy was I wrong!
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As one that has raised birds since childhood I must say that this ruling on racing pigeons just goes to show that the court system is becoming less educated in the history of our forefathers and is more concerned with the ignorance of the public showing itself that the present legal system is continuing to play on dangerous ground.
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If it wasn't for these flying athletes companies such as Reuters News Service, American Express, and the Rothschild's must admit the success of their financial fortunes is directly related to the history of pigeons in their respective organizations -
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- Not to mention the thousands of lives that have been saved during the first world wars due to the heroic efforts of these birds determined to find their way home and bring messages to their military commands.
As long as the city doesn't try to stop my Friday night dog fights or my summer drag racing series up and down Western Avenue, I don't care.
birdman, I'm with you. And I do something about it. Every time I see one these wacko people feeding the pigeons, I tell them to "Feed them from your own back porch - that way the rest of us don't have to put with the pigeon shit!"
And when they look at you funny, say "It's illegal to feed the pigeons, idiot"
The same guy who feeds the pigeons at the Quincy stop also used to feed them on the bridge just west of there. By bitching at him, I think he stopped.
/Wouldn't the Peregrine falcons make mush out of these expensive racing pigeons?
Moon Duck
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I can see you are another one that doesn't know squat about history.
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It was through the help of pigeon breeders that peregrine falcons recouped from the brink of extinction.
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But I can see ignorance is a long way from annihilation.
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I just wonder what Noah, Abraham, Christ, or any other person that participated in the development of human history would think of a law that treads on the economic, political, social, and religious views of its participants.
They should be Terry "I Killed Marshall Fiel's For Macy's ASSHOLE" Lundgren's pets, And Terry eats pigeon SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Marshall Field's that is......Sorry about that.
Not in CHICAGO, schnauber.
They brought the Peregrines in to CONTROL the pigeon population.
/Yes, I'm sure that the Jebus would have become involved in a pigeon discussion. Geez, hype much??
//Why don't just move somewhere where you can race your pigeons? WTF? It's obviously very important to you, why would you stay in Chicago? That seems foolish.
BTW, are you trying to be a smartass with the "Moon Duck" thing?? If so, you failed miserably.
That's as bad as this "Terry Lundgren" idiot. Maybe you're the same person.
You bird people are nuts. If you want pigeons as pets, then clean up after the birds like dog owners have to pick up thier poop and mind your neighbor's BB gun. If I lived next to one of you I would probably do something like start a Falcon club, then we can really see how fast your dirty birds are.
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Schnauber - I love the line about Noah, Abraham, and Jesus - I would have to question your comments though, seeing that Noah had more to do with the development of pigeon history than people's, since he grabbed two of them for his boat. Abraham? Hmmm.... yeah, he was about to throw his kid into a bonfire - I don't see how that helped along in human history, unless you're talking about the history of human wacko's. Jesus, I can see. A great guy, but it seems that the only history of humans this guy helped develop stems to violence, ignorance, and oppression.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral
progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Gandhi was eaten alive by rats!!!
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Pigeons can suck it. I am a lover of animals but C'MON PEOPLE!! they're pigeons!!
When the pigeons have been destroyed do you think all of the pigeon droppings will go away ..there are more starlings in chicago than pigeons do they poop ? cats have more diseases than pigeons gonna get rid of them next ?? and by the way what was the lady judge's name that upheld the ruling... SHAME ON CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!
When the pigeons have been destroyed do you think all of the pigeon droppings will go away ..there are more starlings in chicago than pigeons do they poop ? cats have more diseases than pigeons gonna get rid of them next ?? and by the way what was the lady judge's name that upheld the ruling... SHAME ON CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!
The only good pigen is a dead pigeon!
Come to Rogers Park and look across the alley from Burrows Moving. There's a nutcase on the first floor that dumps 5 pounds of seed outside for the flying rats everyday. And of course, that brings the real rats here too!
Pigeons poop, Dogs Poop, woman poop,Men Poop, Childern Poop, Judges Poop,Cats Poop.Does that mean we shoud get rid of them? I raised Birmingham Roller Pigeons & Raceing Pigeons for 30 years & I never got sick from them.IF Children would get In the pigeon Hobby there would be less junvinile crime & vadelisim. Cheers,LLoyd johnson
The pigeons in rogers park (where ever that is ) are not racing birds .. ya need to deal with the guy dumping the feed outside....I do believe that there are rats in chicago ........SHAME ON CHICAGO...
what is it about stories like these that bring out the nutcases.
my God, they are pigeons, not babies.
call them sqaub and then eat them
Rogers Park is a neighborhood in Chicago, a city you obviously don't live in.
I think there needs to be a distinction made between pigeons bred for a particular reason, that are housed on someone's property, and wild pigeons that are all over the place in the city.
I have no problem with the former. The latter are a real nuisance. My former apartment's windows opened to a space between two buildings. Pigeons would land on my windowsill and coo loudly early in the morning when I'm trying to sleep. Molted feathers would cover my window screens, and there were droppings all over my windowsill.
Businesses have to take precautions to keep pigeons from perching on the ledges over their doors so they won't poop on customers. The difference between these pigeons and the cats and dogs mentioned, is that the majority of dogs and cats have owners that pick up after them. But, these pigeons are wild; they have no owners to pick up after them.
Those of you posting from outside of the city need to understand that this is an emotional subject for residences, just as breeding these racing pigeons is for you. And, when you say the word "pigeon," most people think of the nuisance wild pigeons, they don't think of the one's you're trying to protect.
So, I'd suggest in the future, that you try to educate people in the difference, instead of berating everyone whose opinion differs from you're own, and you may just get some sympathetic responses to your concerns.
Birds pooing on someone in a downtown store entrance has noting to do with racing birds ..so how did all of this get started and a racing club in chicago lose their their birds ?Other people's educational level isnt my responsibility and i sure aint looking for
sympathy....I view this as just another step in political correctness..I live here in kentucky on my 14 acre place i have over 150 pigeons mostly white birds that i use for weddings and funerals ..I have trained and kept birds since the early 1950s i cant amagine being without them..
Moon , A Terry Lundgren-Macy's LOVER??????????????, MAKE ME PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Terry Lundgren NEEDS pigeon shytt!!!!!!!!.
We are experiencing the same problem here in Baltimore as our friends and fellow racing pigeon fanciers in Chicago. I think the problem lies with the general public's misconception of our birds. I mean these birds are responsible for saving numerous lives on battlefields around the world dating back to World war 1 and even earlier.
The public needs to be educated about this sport we love, (racing homing pigeons). Secondly, I am sure both federations, the AU and IF would very happy to help with the wild and common pigeons that litter our cities. There are several solutions to this problem, it starts with education.
My grandfather got me involved in this great sport at an early age. Next it will move to surrounding areas outside of cities throughout the country. We need to stop this terrible process in it's tracks!
I have a pigeon as a pet that I found in the park. It is unable to live wild, so I will have this pigeon for probably the next 20 years. The pigeon is very sweet, and wonderful company. I have a completely different view of pigeons now. If I viewed someone hurting or attacking a pigeon now, I fear there would be some excessive violence done to that individual. Pigeons have just as much a right to live their lives as us, and just as much a right to be here.