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<title>Radio Fan</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:11:36 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Go to this web page where you can place a bid on a Colin Mochrie &amp; Brad Sherwood autographed Bar stool or a short autographed director&apos;s chair!  All proceeds go to the Rialto Square Theater in Joliet Campaign. go to wccq.com for details!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>nitram</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:05:14 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;that episode of lost sucked, must like this post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Diana</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:35:10 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;The show was kind of boring for me.  Having trained at The Second City, it made my skin crawl to see them break every rule of improv in the 8-9 minutes I watched:  correcting the improviser, directing (or, in improvspeak, &quot;pimping&quot;) the actions to be followed, etc.  The whole thing feels very forced.  It&apos;s not authentic improv at all.

Interesting that Maribeth Monroe (former Second City Mainstage alum) is on there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>jocelyn</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:46:26 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;it&apos;s interesting.  most people i know only know improv as &quot;whose line is it anyway&quot; stuff -- short form and games.  they have no clue what long form improv is AT ALL.  in fact, i think a lot of people see improv as this kind of &quot;entertain me, MONKEY!&quot; kind of thing. they feel if they aren&apos;t constantly laughing, they&apos;ve been ripped off.  long form leaves a lot of people wanting, because they don&apos;t get the subtleties of the artform.

i was watching &apos;thank god you&apos;re here&apos; when it was on monday nights, and the people who were funnier and better obviously know the basic &apos;rules&apos; of improv -- just say yes to anything they ask you. give an answer no matter what. give specifics, etc.

i agree with the idea that it is sort of lame that the ensemble is required to have forced lines, etc.  i&apos;m guessing that the reason is that it forces the scene 1. to have a definite narrative no matter what (lowest common denominator needs that) and 2. it also forces the new player into awkward situations by automatically re-routing the scene instantly, forcing them to have to crazily improVISe again.

anyway, it&apos;s interesting to watch the show. i love dave foley on there, but david alan grier is annoying to me.  and he had super gray hair the first episode and now totally dyes his hair.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Rocky</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:26:17 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Have you ever seen Colin Mochrie &amp; Brad Sherwood live? It&apos;s a great evening of improv. Those guys are pros!!
www.colinandbradshow.com
www.myspace.com/colinandbrad&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Mo</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:54:44 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, I&apos;d like to see the core cast improv based on what the guest star comes up with.  It seems counterproductive to ignore the insanity the guest throws out there and bring it back to a preset list of topics.  I think there must still be ways of getting back on point (if say, there are props or extra characters that need to get introduced) without getting back to the &quot;script&quot; so abruptly.  Overall, though, I am watching and enjoying the show, for both the funny parts and the embarrassing parts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>E</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:50:27 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps, i&apos;m a bit twisted, but I prefer the actors to completely bomb because it&apos;s more entertaining to me.

I saw last&apos;s week episode with edie mcclurg and she handled her bit flawlessly which to me was boring.

am I the only one who thinks this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Larry Fine</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:46:46 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;That show and TJ and Dave have next to no crossover to what you saw on the TV. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>geekgrrl</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:37:06 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;i did love the &quot;thank god i&apos;m here.&quot;  but he kept cracking up and seemed in waaaay over his head.

as an outsider, it looks like improv has a bad rap.  i&apos;ve been invited - nay, ordered to see TJ and Dave in the near future.  i&apos;d be able to judge better after that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Margaret</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:14:55 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Come on now, George Takei coming in and saying &quot;thank god I&apos;m here&quot; before anyone else could say it? Loved that. I thought he was trying to thwart the script the whole way and I appreciated that.

As far as improv being insular, it is. But so is opera, or poetry, or anything else.

The title of my post refers to short form improv vs. long form improv. Short being the quick go for the laughs humor of say...Comedy Sportz or Whose Line and long form being more dramatic, with more references back to itself done at I.O. or by TJ and Dave.

I&apos;m just not sure improv can stand on its own two feet outside of a club or bar setting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>geekgrrl</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:56:20 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;george takei was cringeworthy.  tom green was okay destroying his own set, but couldn&apos;t do dick with the other performers.  i was surprised at how well shannon elizabeth did, and i&apos;m kicking myself for missing chelsea handler&apos;s individual bit.  i liked her a lot.

to play devil&apos;s advocate...maybe the reason the general public is clueless about improv is because it&apos;s so insular.  i mean, what does &apos;short long&apos; mean?  i myself am without a comedy/theatrical background, and it bugs me when i hear improv phrases pop up in sketches.  it&apos;s a bit of a turn-off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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