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<title>spook</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:44:54 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;
Chicago Public School Teacher Tenure for Dummies 101

Don’t: 
get awards, grants,or any other form of positive recognition. It just makes older teachers/ administrators uncomfortable at best, at worst  makes them look lazy and out of touch

Do:

spend a lot of time watching reality TV and soap operas to bond with fellow institutionalized teachers/ administrators. 

Don’t:  
attempt creative ways to empower/engage students by incorporating progressive ideas and cutting edge topics into curriculum.

 
Do: 
develop a healthy disdain for students especially the poor ones.
remember its “US against them”  


Don’t: 

Get students to conceptualize and analyze Democracy and Community

Do: 

Get yourself a fancy foreign car either on credit or by marrying somebody rich
because it communicates important values to other teachers and students


Take a page from Barack O’bama; don’t upset the apple cart challenge the status- que
But remember to smile a lot
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<title>Lulu</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:12:53 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;westie--I don&apos;t know of any other job when you can be fired without any sort of HR paper trail, particularly after five years.  The fact that a principal can let someone go with absolutely no warning is a problem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>hra</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 09:06:43 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;sure westie, we teachers are also part of the real world.  but, when we&apos;re doing a &quot;superior&quot; job, termination doesn&apos;t really seem right, does it?!  

it has nothing to do with job performance and everything to do with politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>westie</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 08:12:52 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;if one spends the first five years of one&apos;s job worrying about being fired, it&apos;s going to affect their teaching and working with kids.&quot;

Yes, just like every other job, you will worry about doing what your supervisors want you to.  Are there bad principals? Yes.  Are even good principals rewarded/penalized for the wrong things, from time to time?  Yes.  But don&apos;t expect too much sympathy from any non-teachers for &quot;being worried about being fired.&quot;  It&apos;s called the real world.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>CC1st</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 23:29:35 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Lulu,
I am sorry to hear about that - for you and many others that are great teachers, but had to leave.  I guess I am wondering as a future teacher, (I am in a master&apos;s program now), are there other school districts in the area that don&apos;t have the 4 year tenure system?  When I was growing up, I heard horror stories from suburban school districts and how easily they fire you before you get tenure. I heard that CPS didn&apos;t let you go that easily, but I guess things have changed, or I just didn&apos;t know what was going on.

Navigating school politics is definitely not a class in grad school.  I am not looking forward to doing that in my future teaching site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Lulu</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:02:45 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I was one of those 775 teachers.  I have received &quot;excellent&quot; ratings every year and have been active in after school activities, professional development (including being asked to train other teachers at an all area event this past January)  I was awarded a National Endowment for the Humanities Seminar scholarship 2 years ago, and am well respected by my peers, and by parents and students.  

I know exactly why I was let go, and it has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with politics.  Arnie Duncan sent out a press release stating that &quot;the cuts allow principals to build the best teams for their schools, and they are not to solve budget problems or get rid of outspoken teachers.&quot;  Yeah, right.  I know that there are plenty of teachers that need to go, however summarily letting teachers go after four years seems unreasonable.  Principals aren&apos;t required to give any sort of warning, or provide any sort of reason, whereas in any other sort of job there would have to be a whole documented paper trail before they could act.

At least five people in my building were let go; a few were deserved, but the rest were let go for personal reasons, not ones that had anything to do with performance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>teacher named by chicagoist</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:27:34 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;oops!  sorry for the multiple posts.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:23:37 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;sam - 100% of the students scored at or above grade level.  

do you work for the chicago board of education?  your nitpick is a great way to avoid the real issue here!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>teacher named by chicagoist</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:21:04 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;sam - amanda meant 100% of my students scored at or above grade level in math.  

that nitpick is a great way to avoid the point of the post.  do you work for CPS Board of Education?!?!  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:18:20 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;sam - amanda meant 100% of my students scored at or above grade level in math.  

that nitpick is a great way to avoid the point of the post.  do you work for CPS Board of Education?!?!  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Amanda</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:11:58 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Sam. Duly noted.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Sam</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:48:36 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a nitpick, you can&apos;t be in the 100th percentile of anything.  It excludes 100% of the data set - therefore you are better than yourself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>hra</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:50:33 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;another teacher at our school bit the dust today.  and when she went in to ask for ways that she could be a better teacher or meet the school&apos;s new philosophy (teaching to the test and raising test scores), the principal shewed her out of her office and started yelling at her. 

so much for constructive criticism.  

it&apos;s all politics.  the board of education in chicago doesn&apos;t care about the students.  it&apos;s all about numbers....and money....mostly money.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>ccc</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:29:38 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;when I worked for CPS, I would wait with baited breath every spring for my principal to tell me I was either fired or going to a 1/2 time position -  and it freaking sucked. I had no reason to think I wasn&apos;t doing a good job, other than the fact that I didn&apos;t have tenure. 
There has to be a better way, and frankly, if one  spends the first five years of one&apos;s job worrying about being fired, it&apos;s going to affect their teaching and working with kids. CPS totally needs a real mentoring/support program for new teachers. Their golden apple crap they&apos;ve been using is a farce, much like many other things about that school district, but I digress...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Anonymous</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:00:58 -0600</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;The inverse is even worse - teachers who have passed that five-year window who keep their job simply because it&apos;s too much hassle to remove them.

The tenure system is deeply flawed.  I know several teachers who have been let go at the last possible moment simply because a district is afraid of granting tenured status to a teacher.

There is no more loyalty anymore - school districts do too many stupid things like this to erode it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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