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How many of you remember Aaron Patterson? He was one of the infamous "Death Row 10" who spent 13 years on Illinois' Death Row for a murder he insisted cops, led by former commander Jon Burge, framed him for? Four years ago, in his final official acts, former Governor George Ryan pardoned Patterson and three others while commuting the sentences of all other Death Row inmates to life in prison. After his release and pardon, Patterson unsuccessfully ran for State Legislature, turned down a $4 million settlement offer from the city for his incarceration, and spoke wherever he could about wrongful imprisonment and his time on Death Row.
Then Patterson was arrested and convicted in 2005 on gun and drug charges. Even though prosecutors and police have tape of him arranging drug and gun sales to undercover agents, Patterson insists that he's innocent and instead was trying to engineer a "reverse sting" of the cops. During the trial, Patterson was repeatedly removed from the courtroom for being disruptive, swore at Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer and prosecutors, and caused one of his own attorneys to be released from the case after verbally abusing her to the point of tears and walking out of the trial.
Well, Pallmeyer sentenced Patterson to 30 years in prison yesterday, after sitting through another 45-minute curse-filled tirade where he said he'd "be back. Back with a vengeance." Patterson was removed from the courtroom before Pallmeyer handed down the sentence, citing his long history of violence. Patterson's behavior during his trial would have been enough for us, if we were sitting on the bench. We wish we could say that he looked at his pardon as a true second chance, but we can't. The word "penitentiary" comes from the word "penitent," which is defined as "feeling or expressing humble or regretful pain or sorrow for sins or offenses."
We doubt it'll happen, but here's hoping that Patterson doesn't need 30 more years to figure that out.
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What does this guy have against the PO-lice?
Perhaps Jeremiah Mearday could learn a lesson or two from this piece of shit on how to stay out of trouble.
Which just goes to show that opportunity is just wasted on some people.
When a victim of torture and false imprisonment is freed, the victim, given the degree of torture, years of captivity and condition of captivity; is immediately jetted away to places like the Center for Torture Survivors in Copenhagen, Denmark, etc.
To release a long time held torture victim onto the streets with out deep intervention is releasing a walking time bomb.
So before a victim is released groups like Amnesty International are on site meeting with the victim, the victim’s family, and authorities, to make a smooth transition to said facility that can deal with the myriad of problems that survivors face. After being tortured and sent to death row for 17 years, Arron Paterson got none of this.
Its clear from his behavior outside of jail ( I saw him banging on the window of a police station as part of a” protest” and screaming at police officers with a mega phone at an anti war protest, etc, that he was deeply deeply unstable disturbed.
to set him up for a crime was like giving candy to a baby because he is insane, and no one like Amnesty International intervened nor joined in his defense.
Given that he is suing the police (with officer’s careers hanging on the line) and the City, is it any wonder that they went after him?
I am sickened by this, shame on his lawyers for not doing basic research on torture, shame on Amnesty International for not speaking out and shame on us all for being silent and allowing our governmnet to frame a victime of torture
So nothing anyone does is ever their fault, unless they are a white cop, right Spook?
If I had a quarter for every stupid guest on Chicagoist, I'd be rich. But I would give back to the community by setting up a reading enrichment program for folks like Guest 4, who's life is greatly restricted by an inability to read and comprehend.
Spook: Waaah!! Somebody disagreed with me. No fair!
I've met Aaron personally, after his first imprisonment. I absolutely believe the CPD was setting him up; they went after ALL the released prisoners with a passion, and Aaron was among the most outspoken. I also believe he was engineering a reverse sting; the problem is, he's not smart enough or, after his imprisonment, sane enough to be able to pull something like that off. What probably seemed like a great idea to him was more than enough to get him another 30 years. Since his most current arrest, he's completely melted down, he has no hope of anything.
"So nothing anyone does is ever their fault, unless they are a white cop, right Spook"
Or, apparently, if you are a guest and spook does not agree with you. Then it is ALL your fault.
Why not shame on you, spook, for knowing this problem and not doing anything (or is that somebody elses responsibility too)?? Surely you know that not everyone is as versed in Amnesty International policy as you. Why not shame on George Ryan for setting this up?
Since you know everthing about this case, do you know if possibly this was offered to Patterson and he declined?
Spook has a complete inability to address any criticism of his posts. Instead, he simply attacks those who disagree with him. I'm just glad he registered so I know which comments to ignore.
Dude, you could adopt some humility yourself.
Aaron Patterson is a victim of torture. It would be fair to take that into account before moving on to arch finger-wagging about "gift horses".
Nowhere in your article does the word 'torture' appear. Why is that?
So you just missed the link under "Jon Burge," which would take you to John Conroy's police torture articles at the Reader?
Fuck spook and fuck this moron who blew a second chance--a second chance that many people never get. "Reverse sting" my ass--what was he going to do, make a citizen's arrest and then run for mayor? He may have been the victim of injustice and torture, but he subsequently had his life spared, received a pardon and was offered $4,000,000. Am I supposed to feel bad because this chooch didn't receive counseling too? This guy deserves no more sympathy or empathy. Plain and simple--he blew it.
"...to set him up for a crime was like giving candy to a baby because he is insane, and no one like Amnesty International intervened nor joined in his defense...Given that he is suing the police (with officer’s careers hanging on the line) and the City, is it any wonder that they went after him? ....I am sickened by this, shame on his lawyers for not doing basic research on torture, shame on Amnesty International for not speaking out and shame on us all for being silent and allowing our governmnet to frame a victime of torture..."
Boy, you finally won me over. Aaron Patterson for President!
Stupid Guest 10, I only attack those who instead of offering logical criticism, offer only their bottomless stupidity, just like you, you intellectual/social midget!
How stupid you are! To say you're glade I "am not registered", while you clearly feel inadequate about your limited ability to "think", which is why you hide behind “Guest”. Well I am glade you're going to ignore me. I sincerely hope its true, as it’s hard to ignore you because you're purposely not registered, you looser. And speaking of self criticism, Guest 9,
I did admit fault by saying "shame on us all". But yea, it was less than forthright. I will always be the first to admit when I pull a “bull shit” move, so yea, I should've list my name squarely as culpable. And I could have said some thing more publically about this for a long time, but declined for my own selfish reasons. And no his lawyers never considered insanity or even considered the brutal physical torture to get him to confess or the mental torture of being innocent but days close to being executed, several times during his many years on death row.
All the while his father, a police sergeant refused to come to is aid.
To the rest of you none reading/ thinking morons, go look in the mirror, you're why this nation is going down the toilet, but stay comfortable in your shallow pools. Hopefully one day before it’s too late you will look down and see that you're standing in nothing but piss!
So nothing anyone does is ever their fault, unless they are a white cop, right Spook?
Spook: Waaah!! Somebody disagreed with me. No fair!
Eh,
You're not doing your argument, whatever that is, any favors by sounding like a 12 year old trying to shoutdown another kid on the playground. Seriously, he presented an intelligent response and you just sound like an incoherent redneck.
Seriously, he presented an intelligent response...
Thanks, Navin, for clearing up what passes for intelligence in your book. Next!
Navin,
You are right, I should have paraphrased thus:
Waaah! you disagreed with me!
You don't understand me. Morons!
I hate you!
(slams door, turns up music)
Spook just can't cope when people suggest that his bleeding heart act is full of crap. He lashes out like a child.
Chuck,
I did see the link under "John Burge". Before I wrote. I still think your tone is off, and you can't rely on that link to do the work for you.
Writing a pithy, finger-wagging article with an Onion-esque headline plays into a dynamic: entertainment by feeling of superiority. It lacks humility.
I'm of the opinion that Chicagoist should stick to entertainment and off-beat stories.
The story of Aaron Patterson is a sad one. That doesn't mean he's not to blame. But c'mon... he's seriously messed up. If you've read the articles by Conroy, you know that Aaron Patterson carved into an interrogation room bench with a paper clip that he was suffocated with a plastic bag, threatened, and forced to confess, that he rotted in prison for a long time, that he was going to be put to death, that our tax dollars are still paying a pension for the guy who tortured him, that our tax dollars pay the legal bills to continue a cover-up, etc.
It's a tough story. A guy who freaks out in the courtroom swearing and has to be dragged out is obviously mentally unstable. It's pretty lame to say "here's hoping that Patterson doesn't need 30 more years to figure that out."
Does that make you feel cool, to say that?
Hey, spook.
If you can pull yourself away from trumpeting your intellectual prowess for a moment, I'd like to point something out. The word "glad" denotes a feeling joy or pleasure. The word "glade" describes an open area in a forest. To say you're glad about something suggests that thing makes you happy. To say you're glade about something--which you did twice, suggesting it's not just a typos--indicates, um, that you're a clearing, maybe? Like most things you say, though, it makes no sense.
Ohhhh gee whiz. Had it not been for those mean mean nasty Chicago Polices', Aaron Patterson would have went on to cure AIDS, cancer, and solved the city's TIF 'problem'.
The word "glade" describes an open area in a forest.
Just hold it right there, Princeton Pete, before you confuse befuddled spook any further! Allow him to continue to believe that the word refers to nothing more than a brand of air fresheners. Ignorance is bliss, and in spook's case, it is LAW.
Thanks, Navin, for clearing up what passes for intelligence in your book. Next!
Compared to your (and other's) arguments, which essentially amount to "yeah?....yeah?.. well shut up faggot!" and a smattering of stupid non sequiturs, he does seem like a genius. Congrats.
I'm just trying to figure out how Spook figures that :a guy whom kills 2 people and gets a lucky break to walk on the conviction, then as soon as the dimwit gets out, he immediately goes back to get more guns to kill more people - that some how this is our fault as though one semi-moronic thug getting into trouble multiple times isn't a statement about that particular individual, rather a statement of some societal fault.
Face it. The only time this guy wasn't out murdering, raping, or being a street businessman dedicated to amply supplying a city's crackhead's with product - was when the dick was locked the fuck up.
Compared to your (and other's) arguments, which essentially amount to "yeah?....yeah?.. well shut up faggot!"
You just had to go and play the gay card, didn't you, Navin?
While you guys are making personal attacks on one another, I'd like to take us back to topic.
I, too, met Aaron Patterson. I know his mother, Joanne. I was there on the day that Ryan announced the moratorium on the death penalty. You can probably figure out how I feel about the subject of the death penalty from those facts alone.
I can tell you that Aaron WAS tortured and then almost put to death for a crime he didn't commit. I can also tell you that some cops angrily pursued him after his release, well before he got into any other legal trouble (personally, my friend drove him to a speaking engagement, and she was followed/stopped by police the whole time - this is when Aaron was a free man and exonerated and in no trouble whatsoever). I can also tell you that members of the police department actively made Aaron's life a living hell after prison - we heard about it. One of the ways he dealt with it was stirring up sh*t, because he figured that if the media was following him, the cops couldn't. In the days following his release and exoneration, he spent a LOT of time kicking around with Fred Hampton Jr, bullhorning and making activist appearances for exactly that reason. He wasn't trying to get rich, believe me.
I don't know what to make of the "reverse-sting" operation. I do know that the media attention died, as it was bound to do, and that Aaron went on to make bigger and grander gestures trying to attract the attention of the media (run for the presidency, anyone?). That's my theory on this whole "reverse sting" thing. One thing is for certain - it was very, very stupid, irresponsible and dangerous to the community even if it was what he said it was, and there should've been repurcussions for that.
It's easy to read the headlines (or in this case, write them) and want to make it into a simple "bad guy got out and did bad things again" but Aaron's case IS incredibly complicated. Knowing what I do know about Aaron, I don't think it's even possible for him to have gone to guns and drugs. That's just not what he was about, so I find this very suspect. In any case, he would've gone to extreme lengths to prove his point. Crazy lengths. He really saw himself an activist and a crusader. After hearing about his arrest, I'm sure that he has mental health issues galore, and I can't blame the judge for sentencing him on the evidence.
Three small points I'd like to end with:
1) I respect and admire police officers. I'm not a person that believes that all cops are bad. And my heart doesn't bleed for true criminals.
2) John Burge should be held accountable for his actions at Area 2. He's in Key West now and should return to Chicago for prosecution.
3) The death penalty is still wrong.
Hopefully, no matter how you feel about Aaron and his guilt or innocence (and not knowing what really happened, I leave that to you), you can recognize this story for the tragedy - and not the glib headline - it is.
You're right Guest 26. He never committed any crimes. The Apache Rangers were a coffee klatch. He didn't kill those people!! It was CPD - they just wanted to frame poor, poor, Aaron.
and dan, if reducing everything to simple stereotypes and charicature helps you feel superior to everybody and everything, have a great time with that, you poor, bitter soul. god bless.
dan, do you know anything at all about the case? anything?
because i do.
there are killers, and then there are people who were tortured (documented!!!) by police into confessions and who were wrongfully convicted, like a whole bunch of people in illinois were.
if you don't know anything about the case - haven't taken the time to become educated about the problems from all sides - maybe you shouldn't be running your mouth. because you're not adding anything to a substantive discussion about torture or injustice or the death penalty (and I'm happy to listen to those who disagree with me - when they're making sense.) you're just piping off to sound like an arrogant, malevolent jerk....which by the way? WE GET ALREADY.
say something of substance, or save it for your mirror.
Right. I suppose it's a 'stereotype' to that I'd believe that the leader of one of the most violent street gangs in Chicago's history is responsible for the crimes that he's been accused of.
god bless you, dan. really. hopefully you use all this anger and hatred and self-righteousness in a way that makes this world a better place instead of calling people rapists and.....
you know what? never mind.
Guest 26, first of all I say this out of respect to you, your "Balanced analysis" to please all sides is honestly very tiring. Playing the middle to appease every one, while one side has all the cards, is something Elise Wiesel and Hannah Arendt, both addressed in their books about Nazi Germany. We need folks to tell the truth boldly, because that's all we have, because we don't have the institutional "power"
The truth is that, as one Guest stated "Aaron Patterson carved into an interrogation room bench with a paper clip that he was suffocated with a plastic bag,(beaten severely all for two days ) threatened, and forced to confess," He then rotted in prison( on death row) for a long time,"
Because of this Arron came out of prison a very sick man due to no fault of his own. He demonstrated typical traits of torture victims ie extreme anger, extreme paranoia, etc
Yet people on this site claim he killed two people
Arron should not be in jail, he should be in a hospital, which is where he should have been in the first place, just like Harry Wu when he was released from China because of American activism
And I also have cops as friends who agree with this.
spook, i'm sorry if you see my perspective as "tiring". i can only report what i know and what i've seen firsthand. i don't claim to have all the answers - there's a little of nazi germany in claiming you do on such a complicated issue, wouldn't you say?
if aaron put anyone in danger - including police officers - he should be held accountable. likewise the police who participated n any wrongdoing should be held accountable.
i do agree with you that aaron is ill and should be receiving treatment, and i hope that everyone that's been affected by this ordeal finds a way to heal, especially aaron's mother, who (in my experience) is a long-suffering soul.
This may seem cold-hearted--especially to those who show a consistent tendency to blame every bad act by people of certain demographics on some sort of grand, societal issue by oppresive overlords or some such--but I don't think being tortured into confessing to a crime you didn't commit excuses you from any crime you might commit in the future. Regardless of Patterson's past, and regardless of what he claims he was trying to do (did he ever produce these tapes he supposedly had proving his reverse sting?) he still broke the law. I agree, it's tragic that he gave up his second chance so easily, and that instead of working in a reasonable manner to improve the situation that first cost him his freedom, he took this particualar road. But it was his choice and his alone.
#25 You just had to go and play the gay card, didn't you, Navin?
Insert any pejorative you like and the sentiments the same as evidenced by the above post itself. You've got little to say guest.
Guest 33
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it’s far from "Nazi Germany" to tell the truth.
For me is not a complicated issue. Remember I was the one who called him a walking time bomb in my first post. Calling it complicated is an excuse to stand on the side lines as oppose to dealing with the fact that Arron was doomed from the moment he walked out of that jail cell with no
professional support.
To deny this is to deny what torture and wrongful imprisonment can do to one’s soul and mind.
To call for blanket healing, including his mother, is simply easy and mere platitude as oppose to calling for justice and I’m sure that’s what his mother wants.
With that said, again from some body that was close to this as well, I regret my silence
Calling it complicated is an excuse to stand on the side lines as oppose to dealing with the fact that Arron was doomed from the moment he walked out of that jail cell with no
professional support.
spook - if you're inferring that i was or continue to be a sideliner, you would be wrong. that's all i'll say on that.
i'm also sorry that my call for prayers of healing is seen to be impotent by you. i know them not to be.
Wow. People still use the word "faggot"? What is this, 6th grade? Do girls still give you cooties? Does your dad's breath still smell like his aftershave? I guess if you are bringing that word up, the topic of this discussion must be an N that rhymes with Tigger. You bald asshole.
god bless you, dan. really. hopefully you use all this anger and hatred and self-righteousness in a way that makes this world a better place instead of calling people rapists and.....
Funny. That's exactly what I was saying about the self-righteousness and hand wringing being used to defend a murderer.
Let's be honest: What pisses you off is the fact that Aaron Patterson was the perfect poster child for the Reader crowd - and, like all of their poster children, they end up being complete 'tards
reader crowd? poster child? pissed off?
dan, you're so simple, you're just hopeless. you've painted my position in one huge, inaccurate stroke. does complexity really bother you? is you're world really that black and white? do you really think you have everything and everyone figured out?
thanks for lowering the level of debate around here. i shouldn't have even engaged with you. my bad, folks.
*******WARNING*******
spook posts retarded things just so people will get all riled up and argue with him! he likes the attention! the exact same thing happens for like every major story on this site.
i wouldnt normally have a problem with this; it lights a fire under peoples butts to post their opinion, makes for interesting conversation, and no one ever posts on other 'ist' sites....
but then spooks typical response is that everyone (except him of course) are idiots.
i cant wait until he gets excited that another person is paying attention to him and calls me a moron too!!
spook we are all soooooo stupid. and cant read. and start sentences with the word and. spook, teach us how to be smart like you!
or just shut the H up.
I thought Rolando Cruz was the perfect poster child for the Reader crowd. Him and David Dowaliby.
Let's be honest: What pisses you off is the fact that Aaron Patterson was the perfect poster child for the Reader crowd - and, like all of their poster children, they end up being complete 'tards
DING! DING! DING!
The root of the self righteous pity revealed.
"For me is not a complicated issue."
Aside from the incorrect pronoun and verb tense, spook never said a truer word. No, spook, you is not complicated at all.
Kevin - If we're naming reasons to abolish the death penalty, I give you Gary Gauger - the very reason I'm involved in this issue.
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/gauger.htm
Dan for President!
I hope if I ever found myself convicted of a hianus crime, I get pardoned by a corrupt pos trying to win people over so he doesnt himself die in prison AND receive a boatload of cash AND get public sympathy from spooky. boo hoo.
ever met a. pat in person? ever experience the intelligence and charisma of this man who had his life wasted? well i did in 2003 and thought, 'this guy could run for office. he's got that special something.'
so fuck you, chicagoist and your northside elitism. shame on you for condemning someone who so obviously needs a little more therapy. let's throw you in prison for 17 years for something you didn't do and see what happens to your state of mind
dan, you're so simple, you're just hopeless. you've painted my position in one huge, inaccurate stroke. does complexity really bother you? is you're world really that black and white? do you really think you have everything and everyone figured out?
And what complexity might there be in this situation? I've got no beef with complexity at all. However, there has to be actual layers of complexity worth acknowledging, rather than big heaping batch of superfluous bs that's passing for it.
I'm just satisfied with the perhaps karmaic results:
A. Aaaron Patterson, a violent murderer, is back in the clink - hopefully for the rest of his miserable, criminal existance.
B. The folks in the corridor have one useful-idiot tool box to patronize otherwise honest Chicagoans into believing down is up, right is left, and guilty as hell is not guilty.
C. The entire Jon Burge affair, in the minds of thousands of byline readers everywhere, will be put to rest with the simple thought: Turns out these alleged 'innocents' are actually every bit the animal their gut was telling them they were. Thus, the issue is back where it belongs for the majority of people: A Terrible Ancient History - which will see no more water cooler discussion.
Instead, it will just be a tiny group of kooks and nut jobs who will continue prattling on about the time they got behind a nut and watched it backfire oh-so-beautifully right in their faces.
...ever met a. pat in person? ever experience the intelligence and charisma of this man who had his life wasted? well i did in 2003 and thought, 'this guy could run for office. he's got that special something.'
So?! Didn't Adolph Hitler and Charles Manson allegedly exude a lot of intelligence and charisma too? Make no mistake--this guy was no Boy Scout. The fact of the matter is that A-Pat got fucked, but was given a rare second chance with a chance at millions to boot, and still couldn't get his shit right. And cry me a river for the mental illness excuse--why are we so reluctant to hold people accountable for their actions in this country?
Patterson has shot three people besides what he was convicted of with burge, he put a man on his knees and made him beg for his life and then shot him in the face. Aarron patterson was a high ranking gang member before Burge every meet him and was a felon from the time he turned 17 not to mention his juv. record. He was considered a carear criminal by the feds for his crimes that were committed before he went to prison for the burge case he was is and always will be a piece of shit Burge save lives by locking up this garbage.
I helped Aaron Patterson's attorneys' with this case, he was bound for prison befor he was released..
He was the perfect scapegoat, Go figure, former Gov. Ryan was already on the hot seat when Patterson was on trial. So of course the government was going to go after ALL these wrongly convicted men, it goes against Ryan's credibility, once his trial commenced.
Anyone know who "Fox" is?
Well he's the convicted felon turned snitch when he was caught with a substantial amount of drugs, who cooperated with the CPD and FBI to SET UP Patterson; Last I heard, Fox has not spent a day in jail for the crime which he was inititially arrested for, and if he is, he's definitely not serving 30yrs or even 20yrs for his crime and he WAS a convicted felon possessing SEVERAL firearms and NARCOTICS during this entire investigation. Is that justice?
P.S. Judge Pallmeyer also sat at Gov. Ryan's trial.
My final word on this subject--I'm consistently labled the "bleeding heart liberal" by my friends, and I still say, "Save your sympathy for those that really need it; this guy is a piece of shit."
Dan L loves it when police torture suspects. He loves it when police hook electrodes up to suspects' balls. Then when an Aaron Patterson comes up he tries to tie anyone who is anti-police brutality to this man. Sorry, even a second grader can see through your faulty logic.
I want police to get thugs off the street, too. However I do not want them attempting to coerce confessions through torture and brutality.
During this period he also extended his rap sheet at a fairly rapid rate, becoming a regular visitor
to the police department's Fourth District station in South Chicago. From May 1983 through
April 1986 he was arrested seven times for battery, three times for aggravated battery, twice for
attempted murder, twice for armed violence, and once each for damage to property, aggravated
assault, criminal trespass, and possession of marijuana.
It happened that when Area Two detectives called on Lieutenant Patterson he didn't know
where Aaron was. Aaron knew the police were looking for him on charges unrelated to the
Sanchez murders and he was avoiding his usual haunts. A few weeks before the Sanchez
murders, Patterson had shot a rival gang member in the chest. And on April 18, the day before
the Sanchezes' bodies were found, Patterson and other Apache Rangers had beaten one of their
comrades for stealing. The beating caused severe head and chest injuries.
This is the piece of shit that spook and all of you other idiots are defending. His father was a ranking police officer and he attended a decent high school, and still, he willfully turned to the thug lifestyle, becoming a gang leader. He has nobody to blame but himself--he is a waste of human life. And now he will rot away in jail for his history of violence and bad choices...
Dan L loves it when police torture suspects. He loves it when police hook electrodes up to suspects' balls. Then when an Aaron Patterson comes up he tries to tie anyone who is anti-police brutality to this man. Sorry, even a second grader can see through your faulty logic.
If only that were the case.......
Victim politics is about the quality of the victim - or the potential for average people to sympathize with the supposed victim.
I, like the vast majority of people, simply don't give a shit about what may or may not have happened to some street thug 20 years ago.
So it's no big deal to have street thugs tortured and brutalized by an handful of jackasses like Burge?
Even if the suspects are guilty a civilized society cannot condone brutality. Suspects are called suspects for a reason: They are only suspected of having committed a crime. It's not up to a cop to use torture to get a suspect to tell him what he wants to hear.
Most cops interrogate suspects and get confessions or testimony without having to act like swaggering dickwads like Burge. Guys like Burge are a stain on the rest of the force.
Even if the suspects are guilty a civilized society cannot condone brutality.
I'm not condoning. I'm ignoring. And then I'm mocking. Mostly mocking.
When we ignore police brutality it fosters mistrust of police in neighborhoods. A manifestation of this is the "Stop Snitching" movement. If citizens could trust their police not to beat the living fuck out of people like Burge did perhaps they would be more willing to cooperate in investigations.
Dan L
You're wrong. You're oblivious. And then you're stupid. Very stupid.
You're wrong. You're oblivious. And then you're stupid. Very stupid.
Wrong about what? Oblivoius to what?
Saying that myself along with the vast majority of Chicagoans don't actually give a shit about some gangbanger having a very bad day after he killed 2 people?
No Dan, wrong about how you condone torture. The point is not whether Aaron Patterson is good, bad, or whatever. The courts have dealt with his latest charges. But the cops had no right to brutalize him and others in an attempt to gain confessions.
I have an enormous amount of respect for the vast majority of the CPD. However I think little of the few rogue jackasses like Burge who think a gun and a badge make them God. Burge and his ilk have done tremendous damage to the CPD's reputation and it's wrong to have a cavalier attitude toward their sick behavior.
No Dan, wrong about how you condone torture.
Cry me a fucking river.
Cry me a fucking river.
Nah, I'll save my sympathy for the many cops who do an outstanding job but fear getting lumped in with the brutal assholes like Burge.
Don't forget to give some sympathy to the Sanchez family who had their throats cut by the murderous you're crying yapping over!!
Excuse me..........where is Mark Mannie (the co-defendant)?
Shame on this bogus publication
You comment on an eight-month-old post and that's all you could come up with?
That article on the Patterson situation is so inaccurate that I don't even know where to begin. It looks like a pure propaganda piece written for the FOP website.
I left a response addressing it but they kept it off the site. My guess is the 5 people who actually read the Chicagoist that 3 of them know better, and the other two are morons. So, what's the point?
Especially since they won't keep the proper info on here when it goes up.