Baby-on-Board Review: Goose Island Brew Pub

Chicagoist has long been a fan of Goose Island beers. Not only have they long been a staple Beer of the Week, but we're pretty sure our names are on a plaque somewhere on the pub walls as "Masters of Beer Appreciation," a feat accomplished in the hazy years before our baby. What we didn't know then was that we could have our kid and our beer, too.

Turns out, Goose Island Brew Pub is a great place to go for dinner with the whole family. If you head out to their Clybourn location, sit in the restaurant itself (and not the atrium-type room) for the most sound-absorbing and sturdy, child-proofed booths and tables. Our waiter was friendly and efficient, and our buss-person played a quick, impromptu peek-a-boo with our toddler while we savored our drinks.

2007_08_GooseIsland.jpgTheir kids' menu has several great choices, all under $3. We were impressed with their veggie and turkey dinner, a plate with a variety of foods (peas, corn, celery, turkey and animal crackers) that kept our picky eater engaged while we chowed down our own food. The best part was that everything on the dish was already cut into bite-sized pieces, ready for our hungry kiddo.

The main menu hasn’t changed much over the years, although we feel that the quality of the entrees has dipped a bit, and it is no longer one of our favorite burgers in the city. Their appetizers, however, are solid snacking food, and their weekday happy hour special means they’re half off. Try combining a few for a cheap night out. We recommend the chicken tenders, massive cuts of chicken that put McNuggets to shame, with their 312-mustard-BBQ sauce. The beers do live up to expectation. The dozen or more described on the menu include information about their alcohol content, a helpful tidbit for mamas who might be a little less tolerant to the strong stuff post-partum. We enjoyed the Fulton Wood Bitter (5.6% ABV), an amber-colored, full-bodied and rare brew.

Chicagoland parents, take back your bars! When you’re hankering for a decent brew, take the family out for dinner at Goose Island.

The Goose Island we visited is located on 1800 N. Clybourn. Check their website for their hours and Wrigleyville location.

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No, Chicagoland families, DON'T take back your bars.

If you want to go out and have a few drinks, please leave the kids at home and let the rest of us who chose not to procreate eat and drink in peace. There is nothing more annoying that going to a bar and having to deal with a 3 year old running around between the tables because their parents are too busy "hanging out" to watch the damn kid. And yeah Chicagoist...you may not be that parent, but there a whole lot of them out there.

Since when did bars become appropriate places to take the family?

yes. please sit in the dining area and not the atrium. nothing depresses us drunks more than the stroller brigade staring at us while we chain smoke and say bad words really loud.

Nothing makes me want to leave Chicago faster than a bar full of the brat children of hipsters in cool glasses too concerned with counting their new economy money to put on a damned condom. I want no part of your kids, especially in a damned bar.

I also noticed the quality of their burgers has gone down, they aren't bad... but I used to lose sleep craving them. Not any more.

Still, pretty good food over there.

Man, you "guests" are a bunch of assholes.


Ah come on Guest, 1, 2, and 3. Be fair, I mean yea it's sickening to see a hipster review o.k. bars to pollute with their kids, in an already over populated world, because hipster chicks are still believing in a "biological clocks" and hipster boys don't feel like "a man" unless they create a model in their own selfish image But what better bar for them to hang out in, a semi suburban Chicago haunt like Goose Island? I mean, the hipster baby having crowd, combined with the Lincoln Park yuppie baby having crowd and the suburban baby having crowd are kinda one in the same right? like looking into a mirror.

Of course it is offensive for a whiny parent to state "Chicagoland parents take back your bars!"
Maybe we should respond by accidentally spilling our beers on said babys? By the way what about charging parents an environment charge of 10,000 dollars for every baby born? These funds can then go to parents who adopt all these unwanted kids that need homes

Did you bring your baby?
Babies don't drink beer!
Take the seed outside.
Leave it in the streets!

"Since when did bars become appropriate places to take the family?"

I'm not certain, but it was probably around the time the city liquor commission started making it nigh-impossible to get a liquor license unless a bar also served food, making our old corner taverns and dives more palatable for families.

But a wailing infant never put a tear in my beer.

Have I mentioned that we love Elizabeth around these parts?

As a single Chicagoan who goes often to bars, I say bring on the kids.

First, there is no chance in hell that all the bars will be overrun with kids, so get a fucking grip, people.

Second, the better this city is at attracting families, the better the city will be in the long run in terms of tax base and neighborhood loyalty. I would much rather live around families than annoying young assholes who consider Chicago nothing so much as a big frat/sororitiy reunion, or the so-called hipsters who just want to act cool all the time.

The level of kid hatred in this city is truly amazing.

I don't see how expecting parents to realize that there are and are not appropriate places to bring their kids makes me an asshole. I fully admit to being a bitch, but it seems to me that expecting bar patrons to "respect" the fact that you brought your kids to a completely inappropriate establishment makes you the asshole in this situation.

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I don't love the idea of kids in bars... but I also don't particularly think of Goose Island as a bar. People always bring their kids to InnJoy and SmallBar, for example, on Division St.

I just don't like the idea of bringing the kiddos into a smoky environment. Bad for their developing lungs, and such.

It should be noted that if Goose Island Brew Pub - and any similar establishments - has a kids' menu and can accommodate seating for babies and toddlers, then it's more of a "restaurant" than a "bar."

Which means you're protesting in vain, people.

I work across the street from Goose, so I'm there for lunch quite often. The lunch crowd at the bar area is usually people from Sam's and Best Buy having a beer and a smoke.

I think it's great that families want to go to a brew pub for meals. However, I don't like it when I'm sitting at the bar having a beer and a smoke and a Trixie mom gives me an evil stare because her kid ran past my smoke or heard me swear on the way to the bathroom.

If you bring your kids to the bar, please remember that it's a bar and don't get mad when some parts aren't that family friendly. I'm glad when places like Goose do have those nice dining rooms away from the actual bar for this reason.

Chuck...Elizabeth may be a great person. Still doesn't it make it appropriate for her to take her kids to a freaking bar.

This isn't a kid-hatred issue. It's an inconsiderate parent-hatred issue.

"there's no chance that bars will become overrun with kids." Actually, there is a chance that many sports bars which serve food will in fact become over-run with kids. This isn't just a Chicago phenomenon. I've seen several places in different parts of the country which were formerly sports bars where you could go watch the Sunday games (with adults) turn into meccas for GenXers with their kids, or the place to take the 12 year old Little Leaguers after the afternoon baseball game. Today's parents seem to think that there is no place that is inappropriate to take their kids.

Just don't glare at me if I happen to drop the f-bomb very loudly in front of them. Several times.

I don't see why there's such quick condemnation of kids in the comments so far. Have any of you been to Goose Island? It's for all intents and purposes a restaraunt, not a bar (the Clybourn location that is, not Clark St.). I would have a problem if someone brought their kid to an actual bar late at night when I'm trying to get my drink on, but past that, fer crissakes people, lighten up a little.

The fact of the matter is that kids in ANY eating establishment are generally annoying...again, YOU may not be that parent who lets the kids get crazy in public...but then again chances you are. Just because you decided to have kids doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us. Stay home next time.

"Just because you decided to have kids doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us. Stay home next time."

And once again proof that the world is overrun with selfish, black-souled assholes who apparently were never kids.

Tell you what, let's just lock all children under the age of 21 in the closet.

I don't see what the big deal is here -- ok, if as some of you have said, perhaps Chicagoist person isn't "that parent," why complain to them about it? And people have said that there are areas within Goose Island that are fine for families eating out. Sounds like the perfect solution to me, and in the case of this review, perfectly reasonable for Ms. Shapiro to bring the kids. What's the big deal? Someone (a "parent") gave you a stare because you said "fuck" real loud? So what? Fuck 'em.

You're right. I guess it's more a problem with my conscience then, not really getting stared at.

I think there is an assumption that any place with the title "brew pub" or "brewery" is going to be a bar...not a full service restaurant that you'd expect to find families. Those of us who make that mistake and are annoyed with kids being there will probably not be back.

Yes, I was a kid once. And I distinctly remember being left with my grandparents on more than one Saturday night because my parents went out. They did not take me to bars...or restaurants that are half bar.

Hey Crabs - go the Exit (any one remember when it was on Wells? Good times) if you don't like the kids. Any so-called bar (and that place is more restaurant in my book) that is within 50 yards of a crate and barrel, restoration hardware and whatever that place is that sells $600 lawnchairs is fair game for yuppies and their kids. If you're so cool, then go find a "cool" place to hang 'cuz Goose Island ain't it.


Dear Guest 17 aka soulless stupidity.

The world IS over run by kids who will never know love or for that matter have a decent meal,

Meanwhile stupid People of a yuppie American mind set feel that they don’t measure up to their "gender" if they don’t bring in more little baby accountants( cause the world/Earth needs more!)into an over crowded world busting at its seams, and who then think they have the right to shove their little pink babies in every bodies face as a sign of their greedy Fu*k you to the environment and the world.

While I'm not so sure it's a great idea for parents with kids in tow to take back the bars (y'know, like Rainbo, Skylark, Cubby Bear, Liar's Club and, yes, Exit) I see no problem with parents taking the kids out to a restaurant/bar like Goose Island or Piece that serves food along with their booze.

And I think that's the point Elizabeth was making.

Dear Spook,

And the vast majority of parents in the world aren't assholes and don't think of their kids as a status symbol. I'm not a parent, I don't LOVE to hang out with small children, I don't wear Winnie the Pooh sweatshirts or scream with delight whenever I'm around small kids, but kids (and their parents) should never be automatically considered a problem.

Since you are so concerned that "The world IS over run by kids who will never know love or for that matter have a decent meal" I hope you do some good volunteer work or Big Brother mentoring to alleviate that problem instead of complaining about "yuppies" and their children. Also, the idea that only yuppies are expected to have children is a little dumb.

I don't think there's anything wrong with bringing kids to Goose Island, which is much more of a restaurant than a bar, IMO. However, imploring parents to take back their bars is kinda weird. Like, "Look at you, with a baby!...in a bar..."

While I'm not so sure it's a great idea for parents with kids in tow to take back the bars (y'know, like Rainbo, Skylark, Cubby Bear, Liar's Club and, yes, Exit) I see no problem with parents taking the kids out to a restaurant/bar like Goose Island or Piece that serves food along with their booze.

And I think that's the point Elizabeth was making.

I think most agree with your sentiments (who cares about kids in eatery bars like goose island anyway, I don't bring em' on) but she kind of lost it with the Chicagoland parents, take back your bars! exit statement there. Take them back from who? Adults who want to drink in bars away from kids?

Hello, I think the key disctinction is "brew pub" vs "bar". Goose Island on Clybourn is a "brew pub" while Goose Island on Clark is a "bar". One is appropriate for kids and one is not.

And ANYTIME a child doesn't behave appropriately (e.g. running around, screaming, throwing food) they shouldn't be kept in a public place, disturbing other patrons, whether the place is TGI Fridays at Noon on a Tuesday or Goose Island Brew Pub at 5pm on a Friday.

Finally, if you don't want to be around kids then do not spend your time at establishments which offer a kids' menu!!

For those of you who are kid bashing, thank goodness you don't have any kids of you own. If you did, you would realize that the parents like to get out of the house now and then with the kiddo. We are not in a prison that all of the kid haters are trying to create. I'm sorry to inform you that you all do not own every bar/restaurant in the city. It's amazing that the kid you hate today will be the one you are pathetically hitting on in 20 years.

I don't begrudge parents bringing children to a restaurant. It happens. Restaurants cater to families and everyone should be happy and well-behaved. It's the selfish entitlement of SOME parents and their beautiful and unique snowflake that kills it for the rest of us.

I do begrudge parents bringing children to a bar. It's an inappropriate place for children. Encouraging parents to "take back your bars" is a foolish rallying cry for folks who look back on being childless and long for those halcyon days. Face it. You're parents now. Let your kids act like kids, but you have to act like adults.

If I'm in a restaurant and kids are there, then I'm on my best behaviour, because I'm adult in a restaurant setting an example.

If I'm in a bar and there are kids there, then I'm probably going to be on my worst behaviour, because I'm an adult in a bar setting an example.

Dear Bud Selig

I called a specific person an asshole and that’s Guest 17, but remember, said Guest used to term first, so I’m just dipping in. ;-)

But as you put forth a rational critique, I am just asking folks to consider
what does it mean to bring children into a world not just over crowded with unloved children brought in by our fellow humans,

but also a world being trampled and depleted because of over crowding? Do we have some responsibility as humans to these unloved kids and the unloved environment?

Do we as citizens need to put forth a larger effort beyond tossing a can into the recycle bin, ( like adoption, if we wanna have a kid so bad), to broaden our scope beyond our own immediate concern and concept of "family", and on that note, I think you might be pleased to know that I’m doing my share and hopefully am on course to do more,( if you care about that sort of thing, like I do) but meanwhile I will continue to pose the question to yuppies, hipsters and others. But honestly, I expect more from those "educated" and who operate in the more secular community to lead by example

Get OVER it.

Open your mind a little and close your mouth!

Most kids are done with dinner by 6.30pm -7pm at the latest. Most of the 'hip crowd' aren't even out of work by then...

Stop being so discriminatory towards children and people with children.

Next you'll be saying you can't stand eating out where there are people in wheelchairs, black, hispanic, white, red, yellow etc or maybe a business man/woman talks too loudly on their phone. Be more tolerant!

IF THERE IS A CHILDRENS MEAL OPTION ON THE MENU THEN ITS FAIR TO EXPECT KIDS IN THE RESTAURANT!!!


In a place the size of the Clybourn location of Goose Island there is plenty of space to accommodate all types of patrons. Bar patrons, smokers, families with small children are all able to find a spot where they can enjoy themselves without bothering others. It doesn't have to be the Us vs. Them situation many make it out to be.

Sure, parents want to go out with the kids from time to time. Go to McDonald's. Buy a happy meal. Let the little hellion run around the hampster tubes for a while. But let me have my beer in peace.

Although I would not take my kids into a smoky bar or anyplace smoky for that matter, its not my business to judge what other parents do or where they dine. I have kids and yes other peoples kids annoy me at times when we go out to eat....my own kids annoy me sometimes when we go out to eat. However, if its 5pm on a Wednesday and we want to go to Schoolyard and sit outside and have dinner so be it. They have high chairs AND a kids menu. I'm not going to apologize for dining at a "bar" because other people who don't have kids yet get annoyed by it. We are NOT moving to the burbs so just get use to it. I wont glare at you when you are dropping F bombs as long as you don't glare at me when whip out a horrible toy that sings Elmo songs to drown out all the cursing.

"maybe a business man/woman talks too loudly on their phone."

Generally these are the same people who bring their kids to bars, they call it multitasking

Jusk kidding :-)

Next you'll be saying you can't stand eating out where there are people in wheelchairs, black, hispanic, white, red, yellow etc or maybe a business man/woman talks too loudly on their phone. Be more tolerant!

Hilarious! Yeah young parents are real Rosa Parks, bravely taking their babies to movie theaters and bars in the face of intolerant baby haters! Everyone seems to be in agreement that family style places like Goose Island are just fine (for the 100th time) but that regular bars are not. Can folks like you accept that a lot of people don't care to be around the most unique, cute, precious little light of your life in an adult setting? Oh, and of course, anyone who doesn't have a toddler *must* be part of the "hip crowd". Geez...

Oh and FYI, it's true any kind of man/woman who talks too loudly on their phone *is* annoying and disrespectful to those around them. When I get a call or need to make one I step outside or to a isolated part of the room. It's amazing how easy it is to avoid that horrible intolerance and persectution that you speak of.


The spoiled transplant elitists are really out in force here. How dare you ruin my authentic urban experience by having a kid in a restaurant? I moved here from Schaumburg six months ago to avoid this!

It may shock those of you who grew up in your sheltered suburbanite existence, but hundreds of thousands of kids grow up in the city. Of course, those people are your true enemy because they have the credibility of actually being a Chicagoan, rather than a transplant idiot running around telling everyone how "urban" they are. Why you're ashamed of your wealthy suburb upbringing I am not sure.

Wicker Park is just Naperville East

I don't think that not wanting a family with kids sitting next to you in a bar (or a BREWERY for that matter) has anything to do with having an "authentic urban experience." It has to do with having your beer in peace.

Woah guest #37, you're really shaking up status quo here with that no-nonsense tell it like it is style of yours. I think you've really put everyone in a real tailspin with that post. That'll make em' think!

I nursed my kid at Goose Island once.

Spook.

Please stop with the righteousness. Also, you sure do hate a lot of people you don't even know.

Do people have a choice of what they are born into? Is someone better than someone else because they were born to city dwellers?

What's the deal in Chicago, anyways? I mean, I come across a good many people that were born in the city that have contempt for those who were not.

Angry ones: If you're so uninterested in kids or parents or any combination of the two, then why are you reading the posts tagged "Baby on Board" in the first place? Do you read all the gay/lesbian stuff and bitch about homos, too?

Elizabeth: Thanks for the commentary. I always appreciate your posts.

Oh my god, you guys are so pathetic! If children are a problem for you than go get drunk at home.


Lets Form the "Throw the Baby out with the Dirty Bath Water Contingent, and ask Navin to represent us in negotiations with the Upwardly Mobile Baby Civil Rights Movement, before it gets ugly. Next thing you know they will be protesting bring hungry, teething, stinking babies to plays and movies.


Lets cede to them Goose Island, Hard Rock, Rain Forest Cafe and all McDonalds and Burger Kings especially the grubby one on North Avenue in Humboldt Park, where they found that body.

And when is the upwardly Mobile leader
Elizabeth gonna"grow the movement" by packing baby Chipper in its three wheel fully loaded turbo stroller and head down to the southside (not Hyde Park) to review some baby friendly restaurant there? It’s only fair right?

p.s Guest 43, lesbian/gays or as you say "homos" adopt a lot of kids, even those hard to place kids
so they are o.k. in my book.

And why it is that Lesbians and Gays don't have their own Chicagoist writer dedicated only to their "issues" The only subjectsthat have this is sports and babies. What’s up with that?

and Guest 41,I hate on whole zip codes, especially 603!

I hate everyone who is not exactly like me. This includes you.


And why it is that Lesbians and Gays don't have their own Chicagoist writer dedicated only to their "issues" The only subjectsthat have this is sports and babies. What’s up with that?

And music, politics, food and books.

I'm not bigoted. I hate everybody equally.

Elizabeth may be rad, but her posts are always a little too sacchrine. The rallying cry at the end of this one (sparking this debate) is case in point. It may have well been yelled by Barney.

Why do all parents eventually start writing and speaking in Sesame Street-ese?

yea my bad, Oppenhiem, I missspoke

Boo Hoo! Sure, tots don't belong in TAVERNs, (more appropriately worded) isn't the use of Bar in Bar & Grill more directed as a marketing ploy by a restaurant to broaden their client base?
With that said, who doesn't really belong in bars: cheap ass tipping drunk loud rude kid haters. Nobody wants you there either. Sesame Street-ese is still better than a restroom filled with vomit and ass grabbing oglers.

I realize that I have always been a kid lover, but I guess I never realized how many people are just pure evil. It's not easy to have a child in the city and most RESTAURANTS make it difficult to go there with a child (even with the kid menus). My child (yes, I realize that most of you think that after years of planning with my husband I am evil for overpopulating the earth and causing all the horrible things that giving birth must cause)comes with my husband to restaurants to learn how to behave (even if the adults only exhibit rude beavhior - the child needs to learn how to deal with assholes); unlike some of you, I want my child to see that in the world one must behave in a certain manner in certain situations. If we leave our kids home everytime we go out they do not learn how to behave and deal with a diverse population; children need exposure to all people (even assholes). What better way to introduce my child to that than by sitting next to you at a restaurant and pointing out how your rude views and behavior are bad and incredibly close minded?

When I was little, my parents NEVER took me to restaurants that didn't have the words "pancake house" in them. Why? Because I was that holy terror child--screaming, running and embarrassing my really very good parents. So they stopped taking me. It didn't bother me a bit. Why? Because I'd rather play outside with my cousins or friends. Going out to eat is something that adults enjoy, but (unless there is a playground involved) really drive some kids to the boredom zone quicker than you can say chicken fingers.

Elizabeth tries to identify the places in the world where this won't happen, and should be applauded for her efforts, but I believe she stretches it a bit. Just because a place is family-friendly, doesn't mean it is a place that kids will enjoy.

And from experience, did ANY of us at age 5 really enjoy going to a joint that didn't have something (be it coloring book, video game, pit o' balls, etc.) to entertain us and watch our parents drink?

If they have a kid's menu, then kids are welcome. Duh.

Oh, and that wasn't directed at the previous post, but at those saying kid's shouldn't be at the Goose Island RESTAURANT.

Jesus, god! They serve kid on their menu, that's f-ed up! And parents are cool with that? I know it's cool to eat stuff like fois gras but is nothing sacred?

It's been said over and over, but hey what's once more. You want to get ripped or just enjoy a frosty cold mug of your beer of choice without worrying about kids go to a bar. I'm a parent and on the rare occasion that I get to go out that's what I do. I have yet to see a baby in a booster chair saddled up at next to me at Hopleaf, Spin, or Empty Bottle. It's not difficult to find one, just look on the horizon for the Olde Style signs...they're all are this fine city.

edit on 57: all over this fine city

And it's been said over and over, but hey, what's once more. This all started because Liz told Chicagoland parents to take back their BARS. I'm not going to go to this dumb Goose Island joint, because evidently they're not much more than a Ponderosa with a fancy sign. But parents need to keep their little league teams out of my BAR.

so, all you kid haters, you were all born full size, is that it? go over to England or Ireland or Belgium, the is a long history of "family" pubs or cafes were it is entirely appropriate to bring the family along. most kids, at least most kids that grow up to be interesting grownups, don't just sit there and color. they may have full size brains but they are still developing. the want some stimulus. i say good for the parents that raise their kids in the city, expose them to the world, different food, different people, even the a hole kid haters, so their kids will be more prepared for both the joys and disapointments of life.
hugs, guest

I could be wrong, but as a PARENT, I read Elizabeth's "take back your bars," comment to mean, "Mickey D's isn't the only option. There ARE grown-up establishments (with beer!) where it's possible to eat as a family." She didn't mean that we should all literally start dragging our babies to watering holes at midnight, but that our identities as PEOPLE need not be lost completely when we become parents, and while there are obviously a gazillion bars and other adult venues that aren't appropriate for children, there are cheesy brew pub eateries like Goose Island that provide a nice compromise. It was cute and funny, and I appreciate the sentiment. Lighten up, folks.

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you're indeed correct- all over europe it is completely appropriate to bring children to pubs and taverns. The difference lies in the parents. In Europe, standards for behavior are still enforced, and it's not unheard of to politely, yet firmly, tell a stranger's child that she needs to stop running under the legs of the servers. (That being said, it is sometimes unheard of for parents here to tell their kids to stop running around in a bar/restaurant at all). European parents also do not require that everybody else in the joint be attuned to every need of their precious little gift to humanity, i.e. shielding said child from potty mouth and other adult behavior. Many American parents today expect our "village" to raise their children, until, you know, it's time to enforce some discipline, and then the child is conveniently back to being only the child of the parents rather than the village.

"i say good for the parents that raise their kids in the city, expose them to the world, different food, different people.......,"


Oh Save it sister! They aint being exposed to nothing except to their own kind!

I’ve these “baby on board reviews” and all they amount too is cool new places to take your "soon to be walking alternative GAP ad" to get the hippest baby gear, including ironic baby t shirts, baby Birkenstock, etc,in Roscoe Village Baby Boutiques.

p.s I hear the Latin School in order to be more “diverse” is offering scholarships to the spawn of “local artist types who reside on the North side
Maybe that will be the next baby on board post

Shea, you could be wrong, and are.

what's funny is that you guys seem to think there are hipsters in chicago and you hate them.

i have seen photos of your hipsters, and all of them look like hot topic high schoolers.

if you're bitter about those kids being 'cool', i can't imagine how lame you are.

seriously, though, how insecure do you have to be to constantly bleat 'waah hipsters waaah hipsters'? Be a fucking adult -- by now you should have your own life and your own priorities; who gives a shit what other people do?

Goose Island is a brew pub.

Under 21? Not welcome.

I started taking my kids to Goose Island shortly after it opened, many moons ago, and have always been welcomed there both by the people running the place and by the people who were there.

My kids are now old enough to drink there, so I really have to wonder what the fuss is about.

Elizabeth:

"my bars", FYI, were La Mere Vipere, O'Banions, Neo, Lucky Number, Exit on Wells, and Smart Bar when they were in the attic. My daughter turns 21 next month, so I will be taking her on a tour of the ones (if any) that are still around.

What would you think if I wrote a "college kid on board" article that ends by imploring my fellow geezers to take back Neo or the Smart Bar?

I'm guessing you'd find that a little over the top.

If under 21 aren't welcome then why is there a kids menu? Common sense...oh, you must have none.
I realize that you don't want us taking our "brats" evreywhere and taking over the place. However, unlike all of you we would like our kids to be part of civilization and socialized before the age of 21. This means they have to leave the house. We take them to restaurants, child appropriate movies (and sometimes "Mama Movie Matinees" so that WE don't have to deal with YOU), child appropriate plays, and anywhere else we deem worthy. This does not mean that you should change your behavior, our kids need to know that there are rude people in the world. Please swear infront of my child, I'll use it as a lesson. Just don't be surprised when I point out your behavior as taboo (which it is).

Dear Spook,
As for your comment "Oh Save it sister! They aint being exposed to nothing except to their own kind!" Well I hope to expose my child to you and your grammar because I think it would be a great lesson on double negatives and how they discredit you and make you look like an uneducated buffoon.
Thanks,
Language Arts Teacher/Mom

I went to the wriggleyville spot this weekend for propably the 5the time. Once again, the IPA's were great and the food was downright mediocre at best. I like to take people there for the fried pickles, something querky, fun, and actually tasty. My group got the "super sampler" appetizer which was poor by bar standards. It is hard to screw up fried food, but they mastered it. I really can't boast about any of the entres but the bottom of the boat that we recieved was a embarrassing hamburger with a roll that could break a window and the absolute WORST fish and chips I have ever experienced.

If you go, enjoy the beer but dont expect much from the food

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