When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong: Vegan-Style

Could you please credit Chappelle (or whoever) for coming up with "When keeping it real goes wrong". I'd hate for anyone to think you were actually creative.

He basically took any sympathy he had from people and flushed it.

Getting carnivores riled up about vegans is easier that stirring up a Yuppie vs Hipster slag off session at the Handlebar or Cals after a Critical Mass ride.

It's as easy Shooting fish in a barrel (sorry vegans!)

I agree that it does make all vegans look bad - and while his point of view here is quite extreme, and the way he is going about it is a little odd, and sort of over the top, I think you do have to give him props for doing something. He really believes this is the right thing to do, and so he is doing something. That is not something to make fun of.

Also, let's not forget that PETA (I think) did managed to make the Dairy Council stop advertising that dairy helps you lose weight, and there is a lot of evidence that dairy is not actually that good for humans, especially kids. I'm just saying!

oh no! you mentioned PETA! soon lamps and chairs will be flying over head. Nothing makes people go more insane with rage than mentioning PETA. It's like inviting Bill O'Reilly to an ACLU fundraiser hosted by Jane Fonda, Ted Kennedy, and Michale Moore in France.

"I think you do have to give him props for doing something."

This is the same logic used by Bush supporters. "Well, he may be doing something stupid and completely wrong, but at least he's doing SOMETHING."

Doing the wrong thing--especially something as counter-productive as this--is never a virtue, and should not be admired. How many people will Warwak drive away from his cause?

12:58
www.notmilk.com has to be shitaculist web page I have seen in a long time. Thanks for directing me to a stupid collection of links that I would have to spend six years wading through. Jeez.

This teacher may have some points about diet, but it seems like he could perhaps have been even a little bit subtle. What a jackass.

Oh, and the keepin' it real theme was funny, so 12:12 ought to shut his/her pie hole.

while his point of view here is quite extreme, and the way he is going about it is a little odd, and sort of over the top, I think you do have to give him props for doing something.

In that case, why not also give props to the American Dairy Council for their "dairy helps you lose weight" ads? They also did something -- something inappropriate and wrong, of course, but so much better the comparison to Warwak.

I'd tend to agree with 11 and 12 except that the gosh darn crazy vegan is correct.

Yeah, most every brand new vegan I've known is an absolute jerk. In my experience, it's the people who jump straight from eating meat to being vegans who often are so overzealous. Maybe they're lightheaded and confused from not figuring out how to eat a balanced diet yet. I heard this story a few days ago and was for the guy but every time I hear more details, it becomes more and more apparent that the school is actually being fairly reasonable. I say they were right to fire him simply because he's supposed to be teaching a class, not blabbing about his exciting new life change. And on top of that, he doesn't teach health or science, etc. This guy's an art teacher. Teach some fucking art and march on the weekends.

Milk is Murder!

I fear nothing in this world but the True Believer. It will be True Believers that will end our stay on this charming ball of blue and green.

What kind of future True Believer will do us in? Maybe it'll be Techno-Vegan Hindu Nationalists. Maybe zealous cadres of nuclear armed Iranian Chavistas. Could turn out to be the League of Mutant Maoist Preschoolers. Perhaps Gay Nazis for Christ™, or the Neo-Eco-Feminist-Muslim Jihad of Sandusky or The Church of Xenu Ascendant of the Latter-Day Scientologists set out the Clear the Planet™ for Family Home Night. The only thing I know is that they definitely won't have a sense of humor or appreciate the delicious irony of the havoc they unleash.

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This display (last year) was what started it all. Pics and details will be in a book I am finishing up as we speak http://inslide.com/respect/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31
Union reps are meat-eaters - not fired yet - egging them on at my web - posting my check stubs and all. This is war! VEGAN AMERICA – REVOLT! TELL A CHILD TODAY!
Revised rant for Vegan America that I will use in my book here http://inslide.com/respect
Here is a great interview and then, as soon as it is over, they go into a guns for teachers story – WAKE UP!
http://www.criticalmention.com/report/dave200709120156313434.htm
I do miss the Children – here is a tear jerker – helped JAKE (8TH grade Self-Actualize)
http://www.dist3.org/ms/art/jakesprofessor.htm
Last year he was star of sports, school play, just everything in everyway. Kinda bummed that I am not with the kids, but, I am in spirit and this really is for them.
Cool site – mega hours into it, I am sure, in a brief moment, they will tear that down as well. Check it while it is up. Big site
http://www.dist3.org/ms/art/
Really pumped for Tomorrow Morning’s radio show, http://www.robsherman.com/information/radio/home.htm
Gonna catch a few zz's talk soon,
Peace, love, and happiness for all,
Warwak
Vegan America –Revolt!
Tell Our Children the Truth

The Chicago Animal Rights Meetup Group is leading the way on a campaign that will shift focus towards Educating Children about the Truth about our World. Vegans and other Animals Rights organizations all around the World are quickly hopping on board with this revolutionary approach to the issue “Tell Our Children the Truth”. This is the same revolution for our Friends; but, with a new approach which focuses on the transmission of Society i.e. Children. The Adult Meat-Eaters in the World no longer have a choice in this matter. This Revolution belongs to the Children. The Children of today are smart and want a better World. They are tired of your way and do not want war, starvation, pollution, death, and destruction. They want and deserve a healthy and loving World. Just ask, you will see. Go off in the corner with your Roast Beef sandwich, while we build a better World. They want the future and they want it now. Because the Adults in charge want to hide this information from them, it is the duty of each and every Vegan and Animal Rights Activist in the World to let the Children around them, know the truth. It can be as simple as a business card that you slip to Children, whenever and wherever you see them. On one side, it reads, “Want to know a secret?” And on the other side, it reads, “Do an internet search about ‘Factory Farming’ and ‘Vegan’” Children deserve the truth, especially when it affects their lives and World directly. What are you afraid of, that they will make a better decision? Oh, I am sorry, you know best – NOT! The Children of today are not afraid of Change. Stop the Silence and Tell Our Children The Truth. VEGAN AMERICA – REVOLT!
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Vegan America
People, people, people, please, settle down - take a break - go read up on Vegan or Humane Education or Factory Farming - then please come back in a few hours and leave your Ignorance at the door and stay on topic with real knowledge of both sides. I know your side well. Remember, I am a product of your World. I was a Fishing Guide and on Atkins, so I understand how we grow up to believe certain things. Those Milk Mustache posters hanging in a place that stands for truth is a crime when we know otherwise. This is where Hereditary Ignorance remains alive. It is killing us. Be honest and change for our Children.
I think the average American would be appalled to find out what goes on in those sheds in the distance. You are busted FACTORY FARMING - THE GIG IS UP - WE ARE SICK OF IT! Where is the love and compassion in people? Have we become so hardened and disconnected that we are willing to just die off. I KNOW THE CHILDREN WANT A BETTER WORLD - JUST AS I DID AND STILL DO - DO IT FOR OUR CHILDREN I want everyone who knows of Factory Farming to go to your nearest mountaintop and scream out at the top of your lungs, “FACTORY FARMING” so loud, in hopes the Children will hear you. I want them to hear. They still have sense and can see how wrong it really is. Children understand. Stop hiding it from them. Do you want your Children growing up in a confused World full of death, destruction, violence and hate? What we do to our friends, the Animals, really does come back to us. “As long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of murder and pain cannot reap the joy of love” Leonardo Da Vinci Can’t you see it? WAKE UP!
Everyone wants to make this about me losing my job. I keep saying this is not about my views or beliefs, but no one hears me. It is about how they are running things. I cannot participate in their broken system and they are mad. You really should not fire or hurt a Man for being loving, caring, and compassionate, especially with the whole World watching. If everyone really wants to make this about me and my beliefs, and if everyone insists on ignoring the mountain of scientific data that screams Vegan=Humane Education. Here you go; my beliefs …do what you wish with them in print or fire...
Isn't it funny how I link to misinformation - I want everyone to know both sides, just to show you the forces at work to keep you brain-washed - WAKE-UP PEOPLE – You won’t see any of them linking to my site. There was an editorial printed by a mindless sheep, who cut and paste things they never really researched, that are just dead wrong! Such nonsense - IS THIS 2007? Oh, how well I know, Lazy Ignorance hates to read, and especially hates to admit they might be wrong. This is how the HEREDITARY IGNORANCE CONTINUES - WAKE UP! “We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered” Martin Luther King, Jr.
The Meat and Dairy Industry in grand concert with the loving Government getting their hold in Schools, brainwashed us in childhood, just as they did our parents, and theirs, and now our very own Children. Why do we fight so hard for them to continue such an evil legacy? The only reason this poisonous garbage is still in school is because our loving Government stepped in and offered the free and reduced lunch program (nothing is free, and believe me, we pay). “If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny” Thomas Jefferson
Lazy Ignorance hates work and change. Lazy Ignorance only changes when it is forced to change. Our ever so loving Meat and Dairy Industries in joyous harmony with our beautiful Government know this and have placed their wonderful killing machine in place with all its wondrous safeguards. These same loving people try to unload this horrific-sleuth they call food on other countries. Europe will not even consider it. So we call it surplus and it sits around, and sits around. And so it goes, generously rammed down our innocent and ever so trusting Children’s mouths.
Records, paperwork, and a few too many sick Children, and our loving friends have a recall of millions of pounds of ground Animals, only to find, most has been already consumed (or Lazy Ignorance neglects to find Recall Info and the poison is eaten later), a few thousand pounds in all actuality are returned, which our loving friends then feed back to the Animals (turning them from herbivore to cannibal), your Child will eat later. And still, we fight to keep it in our Children’s schools. HEREDITARY IGNORANCE IS STRONG! Selling out our own Children and the fate of the Human Race. This is not just about diet. Do not believe everything you see. The World is an illusion. Wake up. There are many things all around us made from Animals that we never notice. We are so disconnected; we do not even notice this right in front of our face three times a day. When we open our circle of compassion to all, we grow as a people and our treatment of each other and others improves. It really is about peace, love, and compassion for all. How many more school shootings until we wake-up? Humane Education=Veganism=VEGAN AMERICA is the answer.
When we look into the Ancients’ Artworks, you see the hidden history. This information is the drop of water deep inside a rock that bursts it open when the freeze comes. It is not in any textbook or lecture. The Ancients were telling us how to survive in their Art. The messages all the same, every time, over and over again. They all, say the same thing, and we are at a crossroads of a new age. This crossroad can go in the direction it is going and we end as a people just after the turn of the century, close to the Ancient Mayan Calendar end. Just as in their Cosmic Ball Game, we can reverse our fate, which they also foresaw, in that we change and open our circle of compassion. This is our last big test as a people. Do we want better for our Children? If not, screw you, I ask them, and every time, they say they want to live longer, healthier lives in a healthy loving world. Don’t you want that for them? Well they want the future and they want it now. We have to change NOW! Come clean – TELL A CHILD THE TRUTH TODAY!
Most know this and that, and only, this and that; but, limited perspectives are stagnant when the bigger, more important reality is contained in this and that and everything else. Look at the entirety of the situation and do a search of John Robbins Realities from Diet for a New America. The re-print statistics are all over on the internet. You will see the connections of diet to starvation, disease, pollution, its all there, takes 5 to 10 minutes for the average person to make the connections. People simply do not know about Factory Farming, Veganism, Humane Education, or any of the other implications. Most people never have time to think of such things. We need to slow down, even for 10 minutes and read. The majority of people suppress themselves by adopting systems of thoughts and actions shaped by their own perceived desires of those in control. To deny our children their freedom is to commit a crime against humanity. "Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, "Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that ..." George Carlin
“There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a butterfly” Buckminster Fuller. To many people, this seems like a stupid, meaningless personal choice, dietary issue; however, this issue is not a crazy fad or news from a crazy zealot. Just as a caterpillar turns to a butterfly, a simple change in diet can evolve into the solution to the Health Care crisis, war, starvation, pollution, global warming, school shootings and violence in society. This one change brings a new way of living – actually, it is a very old, suppressed, and long forgotten way of living the Ancients knew well. Humane Education. Teaching a reverence for life. Respectful people do not pick or choose as they wish what to be respectful of. They have no choice but to respect everything. God gave life, man never should have taken it away – never, ever – and yet, here we are engulfed in this horrific killing machine.
A silent Holocaust is going on in America, right here and now, right in front of our noses three times a day. Can’t you smell it? Look off in the distance. Factory Farming is hazing our World. Well, maybe, you cannot see it. I see it in the far off distance, a wavy haze melting the ground. I’m chasing it down and grappling this machine with you as you read my words. Even Einstein saw it 50 years ago, when he said, “Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet”
There is no magic bullet to cure cancer, heart disease, stroke, and on, and on. Prevention is the cure, leave your bandage solutions at home and do a little research. The best diet is Vegan. The science is out, PLEASE LET GO OF THE STONE AGE – THIS IS 2007. Our Children need this. The Human race and the future of Earth hinges on this. Your kids, family, and self all dieing of hideous cancers, heart attacks, strokes, and the list is a mile long – do some research and you will see. Oh how well I know, how Lazy Ignorance hates to read at all costs, after all, it might lead to change=work.
Bad men are just immature selfish little boys who have acquired the power to prevent reason from taking away their toys. The Factory Farming Industry in concert with our loving Government has created the most horrific killing machine that is spiraling out of control. The only way to stop this is through Education Reform. Teaching our youth a philosophy of respect, responsibility, and love of life=Humane Education=Veganism. No more time will be spent arguing with Hereditary Ignorance. Generation after generation slips through our hands playing this silent game of “we don’t want to scare them with the truth” mentality. This mentality is the same mentality of Hereditary Ignorance that wants to drag this out a few thousand more years. Sorry, we won’t last that long. It really is now or never.
Every kid in America should know where their food comes from as soon as they can pick up a fork. Scarfing down a burger on the run is the ultimate insult to the hundred, or so, cows, mixed in the grind for your heartless gluttony. And if you are to afraid to be honest, Public Schools have no place in helping you hide your weak character and lack of respect and lack of responsibility. People with weak values blindly adopt the values of society, with no regard for right or wrong. Children are the key to saving our race, as a people, on this planet, for they are the transmission of society. Maybe you did not know that. The Meat and Dairy Industry knows how important it is to Indoctrinate our Children with a constant reminder, rammed down their innocent eyes, hanging on the walls of an institution that Children are Indoctrinated into TRUSTING FOR TRUTH – NOT TO HIDE SOCIETIES ILLS.
“It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind” Einstein. To leave the responsibility of “The Talk” to the parents, does not work, because most parents do not know, as, they themselves, are brainwashed and desperately cling to their Hereditary Ignorance, for without it, their world crumbles apart. The crumbling should not be feared, for this is your part in the evolution of the Human Race, and your awakening into who, you really are.
Children never grow and “Find out themselves”, when they are old enough to decide what is right and then make it a personal choice. Until then, have you decided correctly for them, and we wait and hide the truth, until when? They never know. It took me 43 years to figure it out. It is very well hidden. Public School should be one place that delivers the truth in the form of healthy, nutritious food that is not the product of the suffering or demise of another being. Animals are not ours to eat, wear, or use in any other way.
This is how the Hereditary Ignorance continues. Schools are one place that should teach students how to see the world as it really is. This is every Teacher’s job. The Art Teacher does it best though. Real Artists are really Teachers. We deal with the real world. People really do believe everything we see. You may have said, “I saw it with my own eyes!” Instead of teaching our children what to know, let them find themselves and how to decipher our falsehoods. Why would anyone want their child to live a lie and die early in a dieing World? Who would want to be involved with Factory Farming in any way? Who would want to ignore TRUTH? Who would want to hide TRUTH? Answer: People who believe what the people they trusted told them.
Just because we enter into a world with little humanity and know of no other, does not mean we have to accept all we have ever known to be singular, indisputable, and real. The truth is we can make this world better, right here, right now. In the great words of Sitting Bull, “Let us put our minds together and see what life we can make for our children” No more School shootings=Vegan America. After all is said and done, history cares not of pride, nor, conformists, only to a gasp at how primitive they must have been; whereas, we always remember those who are able to change with great reverence, for they put aside pride and refused to conform to evil. Warwak
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Vegan America – Revolt!

Date: 09/20/07
Source: http://inslide.com/respect

Seems we have revolution here in America erupting under our noses and there is not much we can do about it. This revolution pits compassionate children against their uncaring parents. The revolution even has a name, “Vegan America – Revolt!” The revolution was born from incidents surrounding Dave Warwak and his persistent attempts to teach Humane Education at Fox River Grove Middle School in Illinois.

Warwak explains, “The adult meat-eaters in the world no longer have a choice in this matter. This revolution belongs to the children. The children of today are smart and want a better world. They are tired of the shape of things. The children of today deserve better and do not want war, starvation, pollution, death, and destruction. They want and deserve a healthy and loving world. Just ask a child, you will see.” He then instructs those against his ideas to, “Go off in the corner with your roast beef sandwich, while we build a better World. We want the future and we want it now.”

Warwak believes the adults in charge want to hide information from children and that it is the duty of every vegan and animal rights activist in the world to let the children around them know the truth. He proposes telling children wherever they may be and even goes on to give strategies. “It can be as simple as a business card with a message that you slip to children whenever and wherever you see them”. Warwak believes children are the transmission of society and for things to change, we have to be honest with our children.

Vegans, Animal Rights Activist, and Humane Educators have embarked on a major campaign to educate the youth of America. Warwak explains, “We have some of the world’s best minds conferring the connections to Humane Education, the environment, health, wellbeing, truth, school shootings and violence in general, including war and ultimately, our fate”. Warwak might be on to something as we talked with the author of the ‘World Peace Diet’, Dr. William Tuttle, who confirmed, “I think this new idea of giving kids cards with a secret on them is terrific. Let them discover for themselves. That is most empowering. And the ‘secret’ idea is brilliant. Kids love secrets. They know deep down that things are being hidden from them. So much is hidden - not just from the kids, but from the big boys & girls running around calling themselves adults.” Dr. Tuttle goes on to say, “This is the hidden secret root of it all – Warwak has his hand right on it”.

The campaign consists of passing out small business cards to children wherever they may be. “Thanks to compassionate people and their extensive connections all over the world, animal rights groups, vegetarians, vegans, and humane educators will be passing out business cards to children wherever they may be.” Warwak adds, “Groups are hitting the streets, during times when children are most likely to be out and about. Groups are already planning on a full force presence on Halloween. Even vegans who stay home will be passing out vegan candies accompanied by a message of love.” Then Warwak proudly proclaimed, “So far today, I passed out 34 cards!”

The business card’s front reads:

Remember the Santa Claus lie?
One lie is so bad, some people prefer to keep it hidden.
So hidden, some never find out!
Do you want to live a lie?

The back reads:

Go to your favorite search engine.

Look-up “Factory Farming” Look-up “Vegan”

“Naming a rock, a banana, does not make it food”

The Animal Liberation Front has joined in and devoted a full page on their site promoting the campaign. When asked, to explain why he is so passionate about telling children the truth and changing his school into a vegan school, Warwak responded, “I can’t understand why they are fighting so hard against something so good. The World is behind us and prepared to help. There is every reason in the world for the school to go vegan and not one single reason to do otherwise” PETA’s Vice President, Bruce Friedberg is offering to help Fox River Grove Middle School with its transition to a vegan diet “We'll pay for food for a week, get vegan chefs in to help and consult, whatever”. The “Chicago Animal Rights Meetup Group”, “Mercy for Animals”, and other groups around the world are prepared to step in and help in hopes FRGMS becomes the first vegan public school in America. Could this revolution be inevitable, whether, we wanted change or not?

No charge in vegan handouts
By KELLY MAHONEY

FOX RIVER GROVE – A former District 3 art teacher and outspoken vegan embittered over his dismissal has been distributing a 700-plus page book that chronicles his firing.

David Warwak, 45, allegedly posted a request via the Internet for his former students to meet him at a Fox River Grove McDonald’s after school May 23. He gave numerous copies of the book, “Peep Show for Children Only,” to middle school children, Fox River Grove Police Chief Ron Lukasik said.

Lukasik said police became aware of the book after a mother complained May 27. The mother said her daughter, along with several other students, was pictured in it. The police since have recovered six copies of the book that were given to District 3 students.

Police and McHenry County prosecutors reviewed the book and determined that although Warwak did not have permission to include the photos, he would not be charged with any crime. Civil charges could be possible, Lukasik and First Assistant State’s Attorney Tom Carroll said.

“While we certainly do not condone what he did – we don’t think it was appropriate – ... we are unable to charge Mr. Warwak with violation of any criminal statute,” Carroll said.

Warwak said there was nothing inappropriate about distributing information on veganism, the practice of not eating any animal products.

“With all the school shootings that happened and the climate of schools today, something has to change, so I offer solutions in the book,” Warwak said. “Humane education is what’s needed. ... That’s what’s missing in school.”

The soft-cover, self-published book – a large, rambling text – is mostly transcripts from various proceedings regarding Warwak’s dismissal last year sprinkled with rants about society’s obsession with eating meat and animal products, such as milk. It also contains correspondences with students.

The school board said in terminating him last fall that Warwak ceased teaching art and turned his classroom into an indoctrination zone, telling students to keep his teachings secret.

At least two versions of Warwak’s book exist. Warwak said the one that his students received was a draft. Another is available online for $29.95. The online version is 487 pages long.

Warwak, who lives in Williams Bay, Wis., said he distributed the drafts to 15 to 20 students. Students, he said, are more receptive to his message.

“Kids see it because they’re still in touch with their heart, and adults don’t see it,” Warwak said. “Adults, they flip out, and they don’t want kids to even check it out.”

Warwak said he was not surprised that police looked into the books, but no parents had called.

“I know that the school was upset, and I know that police were going to kids’ houses,” Warwak said. “Anyone can contact me at any time. I’m not hiding from anyone.”

Warwak described himself on the back cover of the book as a social critic, humanitarian and philosopher who “just as Scopes changed the landscape of education with his ‘Monkey Trials’ some 80 years ago, Warwak has come forward in present day with striking revelations about our current failing educational system and offers clear no-nonsense solutions that chill one to the bone. This book is for all ages and for all time.”

An excerpt from “Peep Show for Children Only”:

“The beef industry knows all about me. They documented my initial emergence on the scene. Funny how they monitor such things. ... Too bad these losers can’t control the internet. People are finding out. The gig is up! The internet shall set us free!”

http://nwherald.com/articles/2008/06/13/news/local/doc48522d1c0b31f358670212.txt