Church to Harbor Another Illegal Immigrant

The Adalberto United Methodist Church and its leader Reverend "Slim" Coleman have returned to the forefront of the immigration debate. You might remember them as the church who gave refuge for a year to Elvira Arellano, an illegal immigrant facing deportation for falsifying documents in order to secure employment at O'Hare. Arellano left the church last August and was subsequently arrested in Los Angeles and escorted to the Mexico border.

Since Immigration and Customs Enforcement showed their reluctance to create the bad press of raiding a church (Adalberto's claim of "sanctuary" is not valid -- the church has no legally recognized sanctuary status), Rev. Coleman has received requests to provide sanctuary to several other immigrants on the verge of deportation. The church has decided to grant the request of Flor Crisóstomo, who is scheduled to report for deportation tomorrow, January 28. Crisóstomo was recently at an immigration rally in New York City, and got up in Lou Dobbs grill:

[Crisóstomo] confronted Dobbs and asked him why he doesn’t talk about the effects of policies like NAFTA on immigrants’ home countries, which force workers to migrate when their livelihoods are taken away.

So until the feds decide to screw the negative publicity (could it get any worse, anyway?) and take action against Adalberto, it looks like the church and Rev. Coleman will continue to provide a PR platform for the immigration reform movement for a long time to come. [Trib]

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Mr. prescott I bet a budding young journalist wannabe such as yourelf would be interested in the good Rev colemans background training and his past good deeds they would add a little perspective to your story.

This is a very good development. This woman is going to make more people speak out against illegal immigration. Each time she or her "Reverend" speaks, they are simply highlighting the problem.

As you may recall, Elvira "Rosa Parks" Arellano sounded sure that her plight would convince Americans to support amnesty for illegal immigrants. And what happened? Exactly the opposite. Americans clearly rejected the subsequent amnesty bill.

Stay in their as long as you like, ma'am. You said you wanted to do some good. And you are!


Fed up, since I'm not

a) budding
b) young
c) a journalist
d) writing a "story"

feel free to expand on your comment and enhance my admittedly vague knowledge of Slim's background.

I don't think it is cool to cherry pick the most Sympathetic Immigrants in order to monger publicity for your "church".

But ywah it is a smart move. The Government learned its lesson back with Elian Gonzales.

I just love how Slim says Flor Crisóstomo wants to continue the "struggle". A term used during both the civil rights and Free South Africa movement. Meanwhile in Mexico a civil rights movement is taking place while people like Crisostomo selfishly advocate( break laws) for a law to be changed to meet the selfish needs of one group for strictly personal economic opportunity.

Actually I use to respect Slim, now he is nothing but a slime ball

If we are serious about avoiding the fiscal costs of illegal immigration, the only real option is to enforce the law and reduce the number of illegal aliens in the country. First, this would entail much greater efforts to police the nation's land and sea borders. At present, less than 2,000 agents are on duty at any one time on the Mexican and Canadian borders. Second, much greater effort must be made to ensure that those allowed into the country on a temporary basis, such as tourists and guest workers, are not likely to stay in the country permanently. Third, the centerpiece of any enforcement effort would be to enforce the ban on hiring illegal aliens. At present, the law is completely unenforced. Enforcement would require using existing databases to ensure that all new hires are authorized to work in the United States and levying heavy fines on businesses that knowingly employ illegal aliens. Finally, a clear message from policymakers, especially senior members of the administration, that enforcement of the law is valued and vitally important to the nation, would dramatically increase the extremely low morale of those who enforce immigration laws.
Policing the border, enforcing the ban on hiring illegal aliens, denying temporary visas to those likely to remain permanently, and all the other things necessary to reduce illegal immigration will take time and cost money. However, since the cost of illegal immigration to the federal government alone is estimated at over $10 billion a year. This is not revealing the massive cost from State and county levels. As California has the highest populations of illegal immigrants in the nation, it obviously why the West coast state has a $14.7 billion budget meltdown. South Carolina taxpayers are paying over $186 million a year, a cost that will grow exponentially if nothing is done. In Texas, where the state comptroller estimates illegal immigrants cost hospitals $1.3 billion in 2006, the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston is considering denying cancer care to such immigrants. In California, a 2004 study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform put the state's annual cost at $1.4 billion. Similar studies in Colorado and Minnesota in 2005 came up with much smaller estimates: $31 million and $17 million, respectively. At the state and local level, illegal immigrants already cost more in public services such as education and health care than they pay in taxes, the Congressional Budget Office reported recently. Illegal immigrants make up less than 5% of the cost in most states, but closer to 10% in some California counties. In 2000, counties along the Mexican border lost more than $800 million in health care services for which they were not paid; about 25% of that went to care for illegal immigrants, according to a report by the United States/Mexico Border Counties Coalition. The costs for education, emergency medical care and incarceration of illegal aliens translate into an estimated $235 million additional tax burden for the citizens for the state of Kansas.
More significant resources could be devoted to enforcement efforts and still leave taxpayers with significant net savings. Enforcement not only has the advantage of reducing the costs of illegal immigration, it also is very popular with the general public. Nonetheless, policymakers can expect strong opposition from special interest groups, especially ethnic advocacy groups and those elements of the business community that do not want to invest in labor-saving devices and techniques or pay better salaries, but instead want access to large numbers of cheap, unskilled workers. If we choose to continue to not enforce the law or to grant illegals amnesty, both the public and policymakers have to understand that there will be significant long-term costs for taxpayers.
With Arizona, Colorado and Oklahoma and shortly Indiana, Kansas and Missouri cracking down on illegal immigration, other states should do the same. Employers who break the law and hire illegal immigrants do not pay workman's compensation, unemployment insurance, state, federal or Social Security and Medicare taxes. Nor do they provide health insurance; instead, this burden is placed on taxpayers, forcing up insurance premiums. This situation puts employers who obey the law and pay all those expenses at a huge disadvantage.
Illegal employers also encourage identity theft and the use of fraudulent documents. All states will slowly deny social services to non-citizens. If we don't, only two things can happen. Either many poor residents get a smaller piece of the pie, or politicians will raise taxes to cover everyone.
Do we need higher health-care costs, higher taxes and larger, more crowded classrooms just so some businesses can exploit cheap foreign labor? Do you want your state to become a new border state?
ONE LAST THOUGHT:
Vote for any presidential candidate who will propose "THE FAIR TAX". Everybody, and I mean everybody, who lives in America, will pay? The wealthy who skirts the laws to the tune of $12 trillion dollars hidden in foreign refuges, will no longer be able to cheat the middle class.
VOTE FOR THE "FAIR TAX."

Those of you in support of Arellano should hear her in her own words...

"...We have supported self-determination and opposed assimilation into this nation's individualistic, imperialistic values. We have taught that our people did not come here because of the American Dream but because of what the American nightmare did to our countries of origin. We have asserted that our demand to be here and to be fully enfranchised here is a right not a privilige and a destiny of our people to transform this nation."

http://wiki.lonewacko.com/wiki/UNIFY-AND-FOCUS-OUR-MOVEMENT-NOW

Destiny of our people to transform this nation. This is not, nor has ever been, about "equality" - it is about "revenge." This evil b*tch stands for nothing less than the cultural overthrow of the United States.

Howard Zinn writes that one of the roles of the President is to establish a diplomatic relationship with other countries. Why? So that said country will do business with American Companies.

How do we do this?

We have invaded other countries, democratic or not, since the beginning of our nation.

The United States will then establish a government that will do business with American Companies.

See Native Americans (wiped out for American Commerce), see Latin America pretty much since Columbus…see the Philippines…see South America. Today, see the Middle East.

Now, when we exploit those countries, we leave it to THAT government to protect “their” workers. And we all know how well capitalists treat their employees with no governmental oversight…they treat workers horrible!!

Capitalists keep using the lame excuse that “there wasn’t any business there before, so they should be grateful”.

When the dice are rolled like that, when America has played such a major role in exploiting other countries laborers...I say that the people from those countries have more of a right to live and work in America than you and I.

I agree with you Irishman (Wowie!) and I love Howard Zinn!

But the reality on the none NPR radio ground is that THEY don't have the right too, out of their oppression -as real as it is- come over here Illegally and in turn screw over other poor people (ala HDO) and crowd out other poor citizen’s from basic services like schools and closed down hospitals due to their influx, just out of a desire to live the American capitalist dream, with out engaging in progressive politics and or critical consciousness raising. To come to America with a “Me Me Me” attitude is not what Zinn had in mind.

Its not the action, it’s the attitude. And what about the Revolutionary change that needs to happen in Mexico? What about the people strugging over there? The teachers fighting for justice, but in Chicago its about a job.

Spook...good point.

Shall we list the laws that other civil rights leaders have "broken" to get their point across?

This history of civil rights is breaking the current laws to get the issues exposed.

Look at the shirt you're wearing or the goods you consume. We Americans have blood on our hands. And when these victims of American Capitalism want to come to America, we give the scripted answer of "you are not from America".

What does being "born" here have to do with anything? I have always laughed at that.

Andrew Dice Clay put it best..."Where am I from? I'm from my Dad's penis".

There are times I almost can't sleep at night b/c of how shitty we treat people around the world, and then shit on them even more when they want to come to America.

I'm not sure if you are for or against Irish, but civil rigts leaders broke laws for justice, not for financial gain. they wanted to make this country a better place, not get paid. And certainly not to become part of the rulling class. Of course this message was lost on too many of them

Spook...fair enough.

In my opinion the tyranny America has spread throughout the world is injustice.

I will agree that coming over the boarder illegally for a “job” is "financial gain".

But America's Imperialistic ways is the injustice that justifies breaking the law.

In my opinion.

Spook...fair enough.

In my opinion the tyranny America has spread throughout the world is injustice.

I will agree that coming over the boarder illegally for a “job” is "financial gain".

But America's Imperialistic ways is the injustice that justifies breaking the law.

In my opinion.

Irishman, you must have some Walt Whitman and Ralph Waldo Emerson running in your veins. Too often Chicago Irish forget thier tradion
bearers as in those above!

So believe, you me, I'm in agreement with you about American's imperialistism that justifies breaking laws. But the problem is that in this case, breaking these laws helps corporations and harms poor folks already struggling. From the poor citizens in California that saw 37 hospitals closed down due too illegal immigration and over crowded schools in Chicago, LA, South and North Carolina, Virginia, etc. It’s also about people being killed in Africa and Iraq because of American foreign policy, but they can’t get sanctuary here.
To break laws for financial gain at the expense of other poor people is wrong. It’s also disrespectful to those Mexicans fighting and dying to bring to power a President of the People. Its sort of like Hosa Williams or Medgar Evers( who was killed) leaving the south and heading to France during the 1960’s cause they want a job. They wanna come hear and own a TV

Spook...great point.

Although I disagree about your going to France analogy.

With how America poisons other countries around the world, we do not allow any other country to build itself up in hopes of becoming as rich and powerful "America".

So if the "riches" are only in one place (America) and will stay only in one place, then the people from those oppressed countries (oppressed b/c of America) are entitled to our riches...more entitled then you and me anyways.

Maybe change the law in the name of American-led oppression so those people are not branded with "breaking the law".

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