Chicagoist: Extra, Extra

CL

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:59:52 -0600

You're full of shit. But that's just me.

JawsOfJosh

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:26:43 -0600

Everyone mentioned, from Minstry to Wilco, fall somewhere between half-assed and competent. Add Material Issue and Urge Overkill to that roster. Chicago has yet to produce a rock band of true cultural significance. I specifically said the ROCK bands were lame, because this city has produced blues, R&B, and hip-hop artists who've ranged from skillful to legendary in the history books. Chicago rock bands are inferior compared to many other cities, and I really LOVE this city. That's just me.

literati

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:46:26 -0600

Cheap Trick and lame should never be in the same sentence. Unless you're talking about "The Flame."

plumbum82

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:41:55 -0600

But I never mentioned Kanye (by design...)

jmagic

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:25:36 -0600

Plum: Wilco - good Ok Go - fuck awful (the treadmill thing was cool though, i will say that) Cool Kids - good, but how good? Rhymefest - good Common - sell out Lupe Fiasco - good Kanye - retard

plumbum82

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:40:54 -0600

The Cool Kids? (Love those guys)

plumbum82

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:40:37 -0600

Any number of solid rappers? Lupe Fiasco... Rhymefest... Common...

plumbum82

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:40:10 -0600

Wilco?

plumbum82

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:35:23 -0600

Ok Go?

UTV

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:30:03 -0600

No love for Styx? They met at Chicago State, if memory serves.

CL

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:43:06 -0600

oh bull shit on the "lame rock bands" thing. Cheap Trick is awesome, SP are great, and with that huge brush stroke you're saying that Ministry, Big Black, Shellac, Red Red Meat, and numerous others are crappy.

mike_thoms

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:54:31 -0600

What about the band Chicago? They had some great stuff but then Terry Kath died and then descended into all-out 80s soft rock crapulence at the hands of one Peter Leslie Cetera.

JawsOfJosh

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:33:00 -0600

From Cheap Trick to Fall Out Boy, Chicago has always produced lame rock bands. Always. I hate that about our city.

jmagic

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:42:47 -0600

i'm sorry, i'm all for the whole 'taking chances' with songwriting and musical arrangements in songs and albums, but both Machina albums were an immediate left turn in the Pumpkins catalog - in my opinion. i think i started to wane off the Pumpkins after Adore came out because Billy seemed to be going into dreamy soundscape mode ... it was a hugely sharp contrast to previous albums starting with Gish (my favorite) and Siamese Dream (very close second) and Mellon Collie. Zwan ... it was Billy's chance to make "his" music and ultimately i thought it was drivel. again, my opinion. it was like all of a sudden he was this spaceman complete with a soundtrack. sorry, but Bowie did it better.

CL

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:59:52 -0600

Jmagic, no love for Machina either? Not their best albums but there are some great songs on there.

CL

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:59:03 -0600

Am I the only one who thinks this lawsuit is legit? Sure the "artistic integrity" cloak is bullshit, but I can totally see why they are doing it. ps. Mike, they are playing Chicago in fall after they move center of opps back here and record new stuff. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003741748

UTV

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:17:41 -0600

Jmagic, no love for Zwan? Who can forget the line "A little sunshine, just to butter my toast" Amazing songwriting, that.

jmagic

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:57:41 -0600

Corgan and the Pumpkins began losing credibility when they came out with MACHINA (both albums) and then when he decided to break off and form Zwan -- if anything, he should be suing himself for defamation.

tc3

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:23:24 -0600

The notion that Corgan would blame anyone but himself for destroying his band's credibility with fans is laughable.

UTV

Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:59:47 -0600

Mike, you seem upset. Would 41,000 pounds of chocolate make you feel better?

mike_thoms

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:32:59 -0600

Can I just say fuck the Smashing Pumpkins, or I guess more specifically fuck Billy Corgan. I can't believe that fucking ass still hasn't played a show in Chicago with the reunited band.