Chicagoist: EPA Chief Forced Out

Pinko

Fri, 02 May 2008 16:39:17 -0600

Oh, that's right you just make things up and call it fact...and on that note your arrogance on everything in astounding. I'm also willing to humbly admit when I'm wrong, aren't I? Which is more than I can say about you, asshole: Why do you think they were released the very day Reagan took office? The students knew consequences would be coming soon. Talk about revisionism. But then I should have remembered that for neocons like you, Reagan was the second coming of Christ... Stop taking yourself and this board so fucking seriously. I know you feel persecuted in this forum because Chicagoist doesn't pander to Bush apologists like you, but deal with it. There's a reason why he has historically low ratings. Coming to his defense as vociferously and often as you do only makes you look more ignorant and pathetic than you already are.... I stand by my previous opinion above. The fact that it incenses you so much only serves to please me immensely...

mepps

Fri, 02 May 2008 16:29:26 -0600

Meh, thats what I say. It might have been a mistake, but at the same time to then call other people revisionists because you are evidently so right and superior in your analysis, and then in actual reality to be absolutely dead wrong- a little beyond a mistake. And no, I'm advocating openness, not saying 'my way is right'.

matilda

Fri, 02 May 2008 15:27:48 -0600

Ok, Mepps. But I think the "revisionist" thing was a mistake, if my memory is correct, and every citizen has a right to say their leaders suck, don't they? Let's be honest: We all act, at one time or another, as though we have the final say. In fact, you are doing so here.

mepps

Fri, 02 May 2008 15:22:39 -0600

I'm not, but I'm also missing the section where Bush has been charged with misconduct to have asked for the resignation. It's not so much the speculation, but the finality with which it is said. Especially coming from Pinko who is acting like he has a final say in the matter, who also several days ago came out of the closet as a revisionist. I therefore would think 3-4 times before I listen to him.

matilda

Fri, 02 May 2008 15:05:26 -0600

Mepps: OK, explain Whitman's resignation. And the Bush administration reaction to states' rights when it comes to clean air and mileage laws. If I have misinterpreted your comments, I apologize in advance, but you seem to be defending Bush's EPA.

mepps

Fri, 02 May 2008 13:32:17 -0600

"Obviously, she was appointed to this position because as a former corporate attorney, they figured she would be a pushover and go easy on the Dows of the world. When, in fact, it turned out she wasn't going to play ball and took her responsibilities to the American people seriously (earning high marks in the process), she was then forced out for political reasons... The EPA has become a fucking joke under Bush" Yeah Pinko, Obviously! right?! Doesn't get much more clear than that, you're so smart you should be running something of importance. Oh, that's right you just make things up and call it fact...and on that note your arrogance on everything in astounding.

matilda

Fri, 02 May 2008 12:59:26 -0600

Great way to put it, Pinko. And let's not forget the plight of Christine Whitman a few years back.

Pinko

Fri, 02 May 2008 12:41:28 -0600

At the center of the latest dispute was Gade, who as a corporate attorney had represented big companies like Dow against environmental regulators. Her aggressive action against Dow surprised the company, local activists and her Washington bosses. But she still won high marks from EPA officials during her last performance evaluation. Obviously, she was appointed to this position because as a former corporate attorney, they figured she would be a pushover and go easy on the Dows of the world. When, in fact, it turned out she wasn't going to play ball and took her responsibilities to the American people seriously (earning high marks in the process), she was then forced out for political reasons... The EPA has become a fucking joke under Bush...

matilda

Fri, 02 May 2008 12:31:28 -0600

Based only I've what I read so far, this is extremely disturbing, as it seems to give confidence to those companies and people who would put selfish interests over the greater environmental good. She seemed pragmatic, fair and tough and not overly ideological, clearly the wrong character traits for the Bush Administration.

Fri, 02 May 2008 12:23:46 -0600

What a shame. By all accounts she was a very competent administrator for region 5, which to my knowledge has a pretty good record (at least as far as the rest of the EPA is concerned) for pushing for enforcement and clean up. Dioxin is nasty nasty stuff, and it's a shame Dow was able to pull political strings and slip out of the noose once again.