Chicagoist: GLBT High School: Was It Really About Segregation?

Syd Stevens

Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:22:44 -0600

The school system must provide a safe education to all people, no matter what the cost under the law. It doesn't make them special, but rather able to study without interuption. You obviously have no idea what it's like to be harrassed continually at school, just for being perceived as gay. A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding state of mind. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false or not universally applicable or acceptable.

JAWilson

Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:14:49 -0600

The cost per pupil is ridiculously high. That would make the kids in this school extememly special.

happyfunball

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:36:40 -0600

Is it weird for me to think that maybe the bullying wouldn't really end just because you opened a school for the "picked on"? Teenagers are assholes, no matter where you go, and kids are going to be kids. There will still be some crazy hierarchy and some people continue to be considered "lower rung". Seeing an episode or two of "Fat Camp" on MTV has convinced me this school might be pretty pointless.

Uptown Girl 32

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:54:06 -0600

I don't think anyone called the rev a bigot. I dont see how this is a smear against him either. He put himself out there.

jennyblur

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:07:13 -0600

Fair enough. I should have been more clear.

matilda

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:51:05 -0600

Fair enough, Jenny. Your statements above--for instance, "The way the gays have structured their movement for equality is piss poor."--implied otherwise, at least to my tiny mind.

Albanyparkour

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:50:27 -0600

If only all those gays would just act as one. Rachel, really, you're talking out of your ass on this one.

jennyblur

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:46:18 -0600

My point is I don't think there EXISTS a cohesive gay-rights movement. AT. ALL. In any way.

matilda

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:35:28 -0600

I think that when comparing movements, black versus gay...black wins. I don't know what on earth that has to do with the point you raised. There was far more agreement in the black community about methods and ideas then there seems to be in the gay community. Uh, really? Do you even know about the debates over violence and non-violent methods of getting civil rights in the 1960s? Or, going back to the turn of the 20th Century, some of the debates among blacks about how to get rights? In any case, that point above, in italics, pretty much contradicts what you implied about the unity of the gay-rights movement.

jennyblur

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:29:55 -0600

I think that when comparing movements, black versus gay...black wins. There was far more agreement in the black community about methods and ideas then there seems to be in the gay community. Having a PROTEST to open a school for gays when black CPS kids can't seem to get to school alive seems a little insensitive to me. It is like going to a starving child and giving them candy. POINTLESS. And harmful.

matilda

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:16:15 -0600

The way the gays have structured their movement for equality is piss poor. That implies there is only one "gay-rights" movement, or that all gays are of the same mind when it comes to fighting for rights. That's about as accurate as saying all blacks love the ideas and tactics of Jesse Jackson. Or Malcom X. Or King. I hope you get my point. Human activity is usually far more complicated than you seem to acknowledge.

jennyblur

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:10:51 -0600

Uh. The gay right's movement has gone militant. Maybe not the best way to get something done FOR THE GOOD of the children is to smear a respected clergyman as a "bigot". The way the gays have structured their movement for equality is piss poor. Maybe it's because they have so much strife within their own community.

Albanyparkour

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:01:09 -0600

There is no logic. I believe homosexuality is genetic. I also believe that a certain innate, shall we say distaste, for homosexuality is also hard-wired. Not an overt hatred mind you, more of a "this is not the way to reproduce" sort of thing. Much like fear of heights or other little tics. Instead of realizing how silly this fear is, people make up stories, cling to misinterpretations of religious texts and dogma. I have a horrible fear of heights, but I take a valium and I'm all good for a plane flight. I say the bigots have a beer with a queer and realize that yes, we are different, but not incompatible.

Rob Christopher

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:00:57 -0600

“If a kid wants to be gay, it’s their choice to be gay" Just another clueless, ignorant view of what it actually means to be gay.

matilda

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:51:42 -0600

You oppose it, I guess, if you really think it is a choice for people. Hell if I know. I don't understand the logic of Bible thumpers.

Albanyparkour

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:48:10 -0600

I've always wondered how one "opposes homosexuality"? Does he not suck cock, adamantly?

matilda

Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:27:02 -0600

Rick Garcia disliked this school idea, too, as did some other gay activists who thought the idea represented too much of a surrender to bullies and ignorant people. Let's remember that when we criticize the Jesus freaks.