Chicago Gets Googled
Asian Carp: 'Nice Try, Suckers'
Friday Afternoon Diversion: Earth With Rings
CPL's Bookamania Brings The Reading Fun For Kids
Supporters of State Bill 1381, proposed to create the Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act, are exhaling in relief today as the bill narrowly passed the state senate yesterday by a vote of 30-28. According to the Tribune, details of the act:
The program would last three years unless lawmakers renew it. Patients would be issued registry identification cards by the Illinois Department of Public Health. They would be limited to possessing six cannabis plants during a 60-day period, of which no more than three could be mature. Qualifying ailments include glaucoma, cancer, AIDS and Alzheimer's disease.
As expected the vote was almost exactly down party lines and the debate grew heated. Sen. Mike Jacobs (D-East Moline) said during debate, "Do you find it at all interesting that people view drugs made by man as better than drugs made by God? This is something that someone can drop in their backyard and find relief from, and there's some of us in this chamber that would prefer Oxycontin, morphine; would prefer mommy's little helper, uppers, downers, all-arounders." Well, as long as you aren't a 911 dispatcher. While the bill moves on to the state house, it could be several months before it's voted on there. Meanwhile, a similar bill already in the house, HB 2514, remains stalled.
add to stumble upon
add to reddit
tweet this
post to facebook
Conservatives and Religious people:
You need not fear the weed.
It was created by God for humans to enjoy!
Not saying I oppose legal pot, but "god" also created magic 'shrooms and the plants from which heroin and cocaine come from. So, do we legalize those, too, as part of "god's" plan?
I guess my point is, silly hippie logic remains silly even after four decades or more.
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
Agreed on the hippy dippy sentiment...but
As for coca plants, as in your example, they are legal in much of South America as they should be considering they have been safe and beneficial to the indigenous populations there for many thousands of years. You have to do quite a bit of chemical refining and work to change these plants into as dangerous of a drug as cocaine. Marijuana on the other hand is changed little from its plant form and is completely safe.
Cool enough, but the hippie crap hasn't done anything to advance sensible drug policy in the USA, and should be dropped immediately. If your slogan is something that would make the back page of High Times, it's probably not going to get mainstream support. I'm saying this as someone who tilts libertarian on drug legalization and would treat addiction/drug use more as medical problem than a criminal one. Yeah, I dislike hippies. Sue me.
Further silent hand-clap for Blake.
I haven't advanced any dispute with you on the 'hippie' angle, I'm not a hippie and I don't care for hippie culture either. What I was saying, was that comparisons of marijuana to highly chemically refined drugs like cocaine and heroin are a bit disingenuous to say the least. Never mind that the very effects and highly addictive nature of those drugs aren't even comparable.
Never called you a hippie, dude. Smoke a j and chillax, bro. I understood 100% what you were saying, even if you seem unaware that most pot worth paying for today involves the use of man-made chemicals to aid growth and potency, as well as decent amounts of electricity and other man-made technologies.
",,,a bit disingenuous to say the least."
Gold star for using the big word, but all I was saying was that coke and smack both come from plants.
You know, we must be in love or something, Navin, because we always like to pick fights with each other over tiny matters of semantics even when we tend to agree. I know of no other explanation. Do we have a favorite song yet?
Never called you a hippie, dude. Smoke a j and chillax, bro. I understood 100% what you were saying, even if you seem unaware that most pot worth paying for today involves the use of man-made chemicals to aid growth and potency, as well as decent amounts of electricity and other man-made technologies.
Those enhanced methods are needed precisely because of enforcement preventing regular cultivation out in the open. So really, no that's not correct.
",,,a bit disingenuous to say the least."
Gold star for using the big word, but all I was saying was that coke and smack both come from plants.
I notice that whenever your statements are challenged you quickly resort to the personal attack. I made no such attacks against you so why do you do so against me? In fact I only said what you claimed was 'disingenuous' after you wouldn't simply acknowledge as much, and went off on an irrelevant tangent about 'hippies'.
You know, we must be in love or something, Navin, because we always like to pick fights with each other over tiny matters of semantics even when we tend to agree. I know of no other explanation. Do we have a favorite song yet?
I don't consider it semantics so much as trying to make a pretty dishonest comparison but whatever. I promise not to take it personal when you take issue with something I said next. I certainly don't, in fact you'll notice that often I am backing what you say 100% or just not commenting at all because I pretty much agree with you what you've said.
Navin: Well, I guess after many, many years, I've finally "met" someone with a bigger stick up his/her ass than the one I've have lodged in my backside since birth. Congrats--you are even more needlessly bellicose and anal than I am, and with even less a sense of humor (that is, the inability to make fun of yourself on a regular basis), and that's a hell of feat. Another gold star. And another reason why our love keeps on growing.
And enforcement or no, there would still be a sizable market for high-grade, high-priced pot grown indoors with some aid from chemicals. Just saying.
I think I've got a better sense of humor tbh, and really, c'mon now! You can take the high road for once. It's easy, just take a deep breath: I was wrong.
"God" created arsenic, for that matter. Doesn't mean I'm going to eat it.
And thumbs up on the Blake reference to LucLongley.
Dude, hold up, we're missing the real question here: Can god microwave a burrito so hot that even he couldn't eat it?
I don't know about God, but Chuck Norris could.
Pass the dutchie on the left hand side!
But, but wait -- didn't the FDA tell us that marijuana has no medicinal value?!
This is stupid. Make it legal for all. (All adults, that is.)
First of all, God didn't create anything! Anyone heard of cells to organs to organisms?.... But the plant is natural. Just like an apple, you can pick off it's fruit and eat it, without using chemicals to grow it. (As a side note to Matilda: Try and go to any normal grocery store and buy an apple that was grown without any chemicals. Good luck. And as far as hippies not contributing anything sensible to the US Drug Policy, please check with 13 other states that have passed such laws. Grow up, do your research, be informed!) And yes Arsenic is natural too, but Arsenic is dangerous. I wouldn't eat horse shit either, even though its natural. Is it dangerous to intake marijuana? No. To drive a car under the influence is the only issue I see as a real argument against pot. Give me another realistic argument and I might just be on your side.
I'm pretty well informed about marijuana laws, believe it or not!
Though I'm not sure I've ever grown up!
I don't think anyone here is actually debating evolution vs. intelligent design!
Rather, I think "God" was merely a term tossed out casually!
And it is "its" not "it's" when you say "it's [sic] fruit!
Between you and me, I think we have used our quota of exclamation points!!!!!
FYI: Hippies still suck! Punch one if you can!
Dude, I suspect we're on the same side, so realism of argument doesn't really matter. My point about arsenic was simply to illustrate the fallacy of the "but it's natural" argument. It does not automatically follow that something is good simply because it exists in nature.
Why does matilda have such a persecution complex? I swear it's kinda weird!
Thanks for checking my grammar. I'm not an English teacher. But if you want to get picky Matilda, check your comma usage..... I understand BlueFairlane. I think we are on the same side. Arsenic is not a good argument against marijuana. And the god thing is a non-issue. I have just become sick of people using these same old points of view. It's irrelevant how the plant is produced. How it affects us is the real issue. It doesn't make you crazy (Anyone seen "Refer Madness"?). I think as a culture we were lied to, but we believed those lies. Now, I think the people who lied to us are getting caught up in those false messages bringing the issue further into the spotlight. I love that it's all backfiring on them.
P.S. Matilda, if all you can come up with are personal attacks, join the UFC or something. And I'd only punch a hippie if he did put some chemicals in my pot.
I'm going over comments from Navin and matilda and can't figure out why you two are busting each other's chops. You're both on the same side.
I guess you two enjoy the dance. I know i do :)
That's exactly what it is ... a love of the dance. Matilda doesn't have anybody to argue with since JessNevins went the way of AlbanyParkour (thus cementing my own personal theory that they were the same person ... HA!), so she has to argue with people she agrees with. And what the heck. Reading it all fills the time on an otherwise boring afternoon.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not Albanyparker. I just signed off my account. Seems Matilda has taken up the banner of argumentative craziness for this place anyway.
So, if you think that marijuana is harmless, our experience as a treatment center has shown us that its reputation as a harmless and almost beloved drug is dangerously misleading. Please read more about our treatment and history with marijuana addiction.
www.soberliving.com/addictions/marijuana.html
Someone from a treatment center touting the dangers of marijuana is like someone from a car company point out how dangerous bicycles can be.
So, is Newport Beach anything like The O.C. led me to believe? I love that Adrian Brody.
Excuse me SLbytheSea but your website says Marijuana is dangerous because it is a gateway drug and not really anything else. You are obviously involved in an organazation designed to deal solely with these issues, yet you it seems that you are oblivious to one fact: Marijuana is a gateway drug BECAUSE its illegal, not because of the affects of its use. People of all ages are forced to by "pot" from drug dealers and not licensed distributors. Even if it was sold at gas stations people wouldn't be forced into illegal situations where coke, heroin, x or anything can be discussed openly. I know I've never been asked to buy coke when I'm getting some bubble gum or cigarettes. And I've never gone out to my garden where I grow all types of plants and found an eight-ball sitting there. If marijuana was treated as a good thing (Like most people who I know do) instead of a bad thing (like most profitable sectors do i.e. police, prisons, hospitals and organazations like yoursdo) all of the negative issues surrounding this natural plant would disappear.
P.S. Don't get me wrong I think your organzation is well needed and a good thing but for the proper reasons.