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Rev. Jeremiah Wright backpedaled on his controversial comments blaming "them Jews" for preventing him from having any contact with President Obama. According to Politico:
“I misspoke. Let me just say Zionists.” Wright told Sirius/XM radio host Mark Thompson on “Make it Plain.”Wright tried to explain that the comment was a reference to Jewish authors and “historical facts.”
“I’m not talking about all Jews, all people of the Jewish faith, I’m talking about Zionists,” he said. “I’m talking about facts, historical facts. I’m not talking about emotionally charged words.”
“They can jump on that phrase if they want to, but they can’t undo history and they can’t undo the fact of Jewish historians and Jewish theologians who write about what’s going on,” he added.
Wright made the original controversial comments earlier this week at the 95th annual Hampton University Ministers' Conference.
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I wonder how Wright would have responded to Michael Richards if Richards had said, "I misspoke."
Not to defend Wright's verbal diarrhea but that's kinda irrelevant, and what Richards said was way more mean and deliberately offensive anyway.
Which of the comments on this site aren't kinda irrelevant?
I think there is enough similarity in the two incidents of verbal diarrhea to draw a parallel. Both said insensitive things about a particular demographic, and I personally don't believe you can measure racism by degree. It's like pregnancy ... you either are or you aren't.
Screaming in a crazy rage "YOU ARE A FUCKING NIGGER!" at a person, not quite the same as Wright's dumb but kind of weird ambiguous comments. For the second time: They're both dumb comments, and either Wright was using racist speech against Jews or he's really too stupid to not differentiate between Zionists, it may be both for all I know.
"Screaming in a crazy rage ... not quite the same as Wright's dumb but kind of weird ambiguous comments."
I respectfully disagree, although I welcome the opinion of any Jews on how they feel about having some ignorant idiot perpetuate the notion of some evil Jewish cabal running the world behind the scenes. If they feel it's no big deal, then I could be persuaded.
Interestingly, James von Brunn said something very similar to Wright on his web site ... http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7811476&page=1
It's an all to typical white narrative. A black guy makes an anti-semitic comment so let's compare it to some random nutter's racist comments, rather than discuss the comments in their own context. How dare a black guy get away with this when some comic gets ripped for calling a black guy in his audience a *nigger* ? How dare a black guy get away with this when a white neo-nazi dude's vilified for going into a holocaust museum and shooting people? It speaks volumes that your opening gambits are all about how *white* people just couldn't get away with it, rather than strictly condemning his anti-semitic comments for what they were.
As for Mr. Wright, he should STFU, his demagoguery doesn't do those who he claims to care about any favors. In fact, he's obviously hurting any kind of progressive movement he claims to be a part of. Considering that he's not too bright, and yet every word he utters is scrutinized the best thing he can do is to go away.
It speaks equal volumes that you somehow are able to claim that one form of discrimination and hate speech is somehow less harmful than another, due simply to the ethnicity of the person being denigrated. Why does the race of my narrative matter to you? Why does the comparison of two hateful acts offend you? To point out that Wright would not accept a stupid explanation from someone who denigrated his own ethnicity while attempting to make the same stupid explanation for his own words shows that Wright is a hypocrite. The man is a bigot, and yet you defend him. I do not understand this.
But then, I am not matilda. I refuse to argue with a wall, so I'll let you win this one.
Oh Blue,
I say that Wright's comments are stupid and anti-semitic yet you still slog on with your "but what about us" narrative. You and at least 3 commenters main beef is obviously centered on how *unfair* it is that you can't say the same with impunity. How can this guy who's obviously as awful as this dude who killed a black security guard at this holocaust museum not be held to the same standard....it's amazing what black folks get away with...
I tell you what, if it makes you feel better: Wright is as bad as Kramer and the Nazi who went into the Holocaust museum guns a blazin'.
Refer to the last line of my previous comment.
Open memo to Rev. Wright: Stop talking. Now. Just stop. You're not helping yourself. Stop. No more. Shhh. No, no. Just "Shhhh". Now. Just stop talking and let it die. Maybe.
I wonder what the odds are that Wright would be apologizing if a white crazy with the same crazy as his crazy hadn't just shot up the Holocaust Museum.
open mouth. insert foot.
Stereotypes, apparently, save time. That is quite a large jump from blaming a whole race of people to restating that you actually meant a more specific group of people. (the Jews? really? That is the group you wanted to misspeak on? Why not white people...oops, i misspoke, I mean skinheads racists that worship some guy named Stan and eat babies. goddamn, man you knew what you were saying)
And I am still not sure what either group has to do with the President not wanting to talk to this whack-job. Maybe he doesn't want to meet with you because you say stupid f-ing crap like this!
Like most of the high profile "Revs" in the black community he's little more than a huckster. A charlatan selling snake oil and profiting enormously by fleecing his flock on a weekly basis. These creatures survive by teaming up with machine politicians and driving their congregations dutifully to the polls ever 2 and 4 years.
Misspoke? Plain and simple bullshit. He got caught making blatantly anti-semitic comments and now he's trying to backtrack to a slightly less offensive position.
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Michael Eric Dyson, Jeremiah Wright, old guard Revs who rely of fear and fallacy while driving the nicest cars in the neighborhood.
The black community needs more Atheists.
I was agreeing with this until... Michael Eric Dyson? How does he belong in that group?
I freely admit, that one might be a tad of a stretch. Mind you, the man is so full of bull it's coming out his eyes. I took his class when he was (briefly) at DePaul. The guy was pulling in about 10x what the other professors were making and his classwork mainly consisted of his rambling anecdotes, famewhoring and bragging about how much money he pulled in.
He's an ordained baptist minister. Oy.
So yeah,
Despite how much you may be annoyed by JJ, you don't think he's done much for black folks in Chicago eh?
I'd advise you to hunt down a book called "Shakedown". Jackson has done more to profit from the community, by several orders of magnitude, than the community has benefited. He's a manipulative, greedy famehound who has shaken down companies with threats of boycotts simply to place friends and family on corporate boards. The guy is a charlatan.
The black community needs more Atheists.
Thanks for looking out for us.
Save the indignation, if you really are black and not just playing the aggrieved for effect, you know as well as I do just how much religion, and specifically evangelical Christianity, has done to hold back the black community. People tithing even when they're struggling to keep Revs in fine suits and nice houses (Wright himself is retiring to a 1.6 million dollar home) it's shameful and ugly. Add to that the particularly bilious form of evangelical Christianity (anti-gay, anti-semitic, anti-intellectual) propagated by these reverands and you'd be a fool to defend them.
And when a member of the community stands up he's labeled a sell-out, a tom or seen as trying to "act white". When Obama started out he had to contend with the black religious community who realized there was finally a national leader they didn't have their hooks in.
More Atheists, more Agnostics, more scientists and fewer bible-thumpers and spirit-shakers.
Yea, I want to know how Mike Dyson fits into the group as well!!!!!!!!!!??????
I love his work including Holler if you Hear Me, Come Hell or High Water, and especially Is Bill Cosby Right? Or Has the Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?
I don't know if Michael Eric Dyson is a certified preacher, but maybe he gets lumped in there for usually sounding like a preacher.
It's not Wright who's the problem, it's his congregation. They probably applaud & agree with everything he says, so he assumes he's going to receive the same approbation everywhere else.
Wright's cluelessness is kind of funny to me, especially his old world malapropisms like "Them Jews". I just picture him at his desk rocking back-and-forth in his chair, thinking about the President and then mumbling "Them Jews" over and over.