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Another week, another great war of words between the North Side baseball team and they're South Side counterparts. Cubs manager Lou Piniella started things when he pointed out the attendance spike at U.S. Cellular Field for the Cubs series, which was much larger than attendance at last week's Sox games versus the Dodgers. Never one to mince words about either team, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen replied, "Because our fans are not stupid like Cubs fans. They know we're [expletive]...Wrigley Field is just a bar." Of course, it didn't help matters that Piniella had previously accused White Sox security members of leaking information about the Lou-Milton Battle of the Head Cases to reporters. But, hey, at least we have one more Sox-Cubs game left, a make-up from a first-round rain-out, in which to see tempers boil over. [Tribune via Deadspin]
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not exactly, aren't they only making the game up if at least one of the teams is still in playoff contention?
Hadn't heard that. Last I heard was one of two dates in September when they were thinking of making it up.
The reason interleague play does and always will exist? $$$$$
The reason why that game will be played, even if both teams are out of contention [which wouldn't exactly be a surprise, given these two mediocre teams]?
$$$$$
obviously, that's why i was surprised when i heard that the other day. wish i remembered my source though, so ignore it i guess.
God, I'm so sick of this stupid "Wrigley Field is a bar" argument. Fact is there are just as many spaced-out, braindead, pay-no-attention, piss drunk fans at the Cell as there are at Wrigley Field. I've been to plenty of games at both stadiums and have witnessed it with my own eyes.
During the crosstown they're both about the same, not so during the rest of the season though. Sorry.
I agree, Navin.
Slaphappy...that is not the point Ozzie was making.
You said, "There are just as many..."....actually, no there is not.
If the Cubs are in first place...Wrigley is sold out with drunk dipshits everywhere.
If the Cubs are in last place...Wrigley is sold out with drunk dipshits everywhere.
If the White Sox are in first place...the Cell has a good, sometimes great crowd.
If the White Sox are in last place...the Cell is a ghost town, and not many fans show up.
That's the point Ozzie was making...Cub fans don't care about how good the team is...Wrigley gets sold out no matter how good the Cubs are.
Slaphappy's right here, and this is coming from a sox fan.
Some people would call that loyalty...the Cards do very well regardless of record...and let's not forget that the Sox couldn't even fill their park late last season in the middle of a great pennant race. The fact remains that Ozzie loves spouting a bunch of unprovable stuff about the Cubs and their fans. Wrigley is a bar, Cubs fans drink, Cubs fans know nothing about baseball. Meanwhile at Sox games no one ever drinks alcohol of any kind and every single person meticulously keeps score for the entire game.
I just know I'm never going to another Cubs-Sox game. The experience I had this weekend, thanks to a number of idiots who happened to be in Cubs shirts, was like nothing I've ever seen at a baseball game. I saw fools ejected two rows behind me for throwing peanuts. Two of these guys fell on me and my girlfriend, then threatened to kick my ass when I got mad the second time it happened. And then, several innings later another guy a row above them fell and landed on me and a teenage kid sitting to my right. I saw a fight break out in the section to my left, and another group ejected in the section to my right, though I didn't see why. And I had a good portion of the seventh and eight innings blocked by some trixie chick standing up and sending drunken texts and refusing to sit down even when asked.
I usually go to 12 or 14 games a year at the Cell, and this by far is the worst crowd I've ever seen.
The hilarious thing about this so called culture clash is that Bill Veeck essentially created it by himself, first by planting the ivy and building the bleachers for the Wrigleys to beautify the park and create the "Friendly Confines" brand, and then, years later, by marketing the Sox as the scrappy working-class alternative. I would just point out that the man came back to the Cubs in the end and spent his last days holding court in the right-center bleachers at Wrigley.