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Hall of Sveum: Cubs Name Their Next Manager

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So it seems the Cubs have gotten their man, and that man is Dale Sveum.

On Friday, the Cubs will officially name Sveum (rhymes with “fame”) the successor to one-year-wonder Mike Quade. A 13-year major leaguer, Sveum was most recently the hitting coach for the Milwaukee Brewers. He also briefly served as the Brewers’ manager in in 2008, compiling a 7-5 record and losing in the first round of the playoffs.

Conventional wisdom says hiring Sveum is a good move. He’s widely respected within baseball, although his stint as the Red Sox’s third-base coach seems somewhat controversial. But he was there when the team won the World Series in 2004, so he’s undoubtedly familiar with the methods of Cubs’ prez Theo Epstein et al.

As Bleacher Nation notes, Sveum’s time with the Brewers means he’s very familiar with the pitchers within the NL Central Division. The Brew Crew also had several players who produced well beyond their previous stats, including Nyjer “Tony Plush” Morgan and Corey Hart. It seems likely that the hitting coach had something to do with that.

But even if Sveum is the second coming of Connie Mack, he probably won’t help the North Siders within the next year or two. A manager doesn’t pitch a complete game three-hitter. A manager doesn’t hit a bases-clearing triple in the bottom of the seventh. (Or, in the case of Alfonso Soriano, the manager doesn’t swing at a pitch four feet outside with the bases loaded.)

A team’s success largely comes down to the players on the field, and the 2012 Cubs won’t make anyone forget the ’27 Yankees.

So what does this hire mean, other than being bald seems to be a new prerequisite for managing the Cubs? (So my chances are still alive down the road — sweet!)

Well, the move tells us a few things:

First off, the Cubs are officially sitting at the grown-ups’ table. Sveum was apparently the Red Sox’s top choice for their vacant managerial position, yet the Cubs are ending up with him. This proves, if there was any doubt, how dramatically things have changed for the Cubs in just the last few weeks.

For decades, the Cubs were an also-ran — a sad-sack of a team that was as legitimate as Herman Cain’s Mensa application. In baseball’s grand scheme, they were a lovable non-entity in pinstripes. End of story.

Sure, the Cubs put together a respectable run in the 2000s, but by and large, they were persona non grata among the big boys of Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and (ugh) St. Louis.

Anytime before now, someone deciding between Boston and Chicago would hesitate for about .0003 seconds before choosing Boston. After all, the Red Sox have hallowed Fenway Pahhhk! The Green Monstahh! Teddy Ballgame! Yaz! Everyone from John Updike to George Will has rhapsodized about the team and how it represents all that is good and true about this country… blah blah blah…

As recently as Wednesday, everyone thought Sveum was going to head east. And yet now, here he is at Wrigley. Boston, all your manager are belong to us.

While we don’t know much too about Sveum, we know that the new Cubs’ braintrust is crazy-smart. As the Score’s Mike Mulligan said, people view Theo & Co. like they invented science or discovered a new number.

And back in 2004, then-Boston GM Epstein had to pick a manager. As the Trib’s Steve Rosenbloom notes, Epstein narrowed it down to two candidates: Terry Francona, who went on to win two titles, and Joe Maddon, widely respected as one of the top managers in the game.

In other words, Epstein knows talent. So given his track record, I can’t help but think Sveum is the right call.

Slightly off-topic, it still astounds me that all of this has happened to the Cubs — and it probably wouldn’t have if the Boston Red Sox had made the playoffs. On Sept. 3, Nate Silver’s blog Five Thirty Eight put the odds of Boston making the playoffs at 99.6 percent.

But on Sept. 28, Boston’s closer Jonathan Papelbon blew a save to one of baseball’s worst teams. Minutes later, down to his last strike, Tampa Bay’s Dan Johnson hit this homer against the Yankees. The Rays won the game in extra innings, and Boston had completed an epic collapse and was officially out of the playoffs.

If either of those two things don’t happen, the Red Sox make the playoffs and Theo Epstein is still in Boston today. But they did, and he isn’t.

So now, another result of that incredible night means Dale Sveum is the Cubs’ next manager. Until we see otherwise, the belief here is that this is a good move.

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  • slickpoetry

    How did the two teams in the third largest (second largest?) markets replace both their managers in the same offseason, and both of them got such odd, lackluster choices?

  • ChicagoD

    You're right. They should hire an established star. Like Don Baylor, Dusty Baker, or Lou Pinella.

    Sveum may or may not be the next great manager, but I don't think I would call him lackluster. I would call him an unknown commodity. There's a difference.

  • Great point, ChicagoD. I doubt Red Sox fans were doing cartwheels over the Francona hiring back in '04.

  • I think it's a matter of timing, as the jobs just happened to come open when there's not really any big name talent floating around. I can't think of anybody less lackluster except Francona who'd be available.   

  • I don't know -- I've heard that the Bosox wanted Sveum. They're pretty smart, yes? Going with an unproven commodity is usually pretty unsexy -- who thought Joe Maddon would be who he is? Terry Francona?

  • ChicagoD

    Everyone forgets that after he got fired by the Phils Francona was considered the village idiot of baseball. People were shocked when he got hired in Boston.

  • I really don't like this hire.

    Oh, I think the guy has great potential and could fit in very well with the Epstein model. I just am really troubled by the complete lack of relationship between the way the guy spells his name and the way he pronouces it. That's going to bug me.

  • That's a really good point. Don't know how I overlooked it.

  • I think it's as significant an argument as the "Well Boston really wanted him, so he must be good" line. I mean, that's kind of like saying "Well, all these smart people are investing with Bernie Madoff, so I guess he's onto something."

  • ChicagoD

    Aren't you a Sox fan? You worry about preventing your manager from having Nolan Ryan whip his ass, and we'll worry about the Super Scandinavian, Dale Sveum.

  • I'd be fine letting you worry about your Norwegian or whatever he is, except I'm going to have to hear his oddly-pronounced name repeated ad nauseum.

    Also, the Sox have a manager?

  • The hunt for Prince Fielder begins now.

  • That would be pretty great, wouldn't it?

  • slickpoetry

    It'd be pretty useless, actually. The Cubs need to be rebuilt from scratch, basically. Spending $100 million to get one guy who will put up monster numbers while the team is at the bottom of the division for 4 years...what is smart about that?

  • Four years? That's pretty pessimistic. 

  • UTChicago

    I hate that line of thinking. It's basically the "we don't DESERVE nice things" school of thought. 

  • ChicagoD

    No, it's the why pay out the nose for a guy who will take us from 71 to 80 wins school of thought. Spend that money when there is an infrastructure to support it.

  • UTChicago

    Great, and I'm sure when we have that in place, there will be just the guy waiting around for us. I agree we need to focus on infrastructure, but abandoning other ways of building a team isn't going to ensure success any better. 

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