I'm sick of all these BS machismo displays. I say catch him, and have a public hanging in Daley Plaza. He deserves it.

The Tribune is really run by a bunch of greedy bastards. At least the Chicagoist was able to provide some somewhat usable images of this ass hole. On the Trib website (see the link above) you have to watch a 15 second commercial before you see 3 seconds of the shooter. Want to see it again? Watch another commercial. Not only that but the video they do show is close to useless. Tribune: If you want people to ID this guy don't be so money grubbing.

And it's because of animals like this that I support the death penalty. Hell, we should use it more often, a bullet to the back of the head. People like this have no business living in society. [Yeah, I know about the massive mistakes made with the death penalty, and those have to be fixed, but I really see no reason to allow such creatures, assuming they are convicted, to live among civilized people. Some people are just lost causes.]

Dopplerd: Well, the Trib has to make money somehow, especially when so many people read its stories for free on the Web.

"Well, the Trib has to make money somehow, especially when so many people read its stories for free on the Web."

So its o.k for the Trib to make a buck off "such" a creature"?

People like you are worse Rattilda because I can only guess what produced this person. Not that you genuflect on such social matters instead of defending a b.s republican rag of a news paper

See its you that have no excuse to be such a lost cause.

As flawded as I am, to want to see a bullet in this child killers head. I would rather force you to trade places with him. He gets your opportunities at birth and you get his.

GLBTQ people make to this,

Ok, call me ignorant. I know what the "GLBT" stand for, but when did "Q," get invited, and what does he stand for.

Q stands for "Queer", and it's something of a popular designation. I tend to simply call people by their names, not their orientations, but in this case it's short hand.

The study mentioned above can be found here, I believe.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/2/0/1/1/1/p201110_index.html

Q can be Queer or Questioning.. the letters are ever expanding.

As far as the story.. how can one be so quick to fire over something so stupid? Is this the wild west? The guys must resort to gun displays frequently if they whip them out so easily in a public place.

For all we know, this killer had a loving mom and dad, as many killers and amoral or immoral people do.

No, Rattida that's just an example of how creatures like YOU put social blinders on your cow face to avoid what's going on in the growing dark underside in urban communities of "your" America

Yea what "we" know is that you are a pompous moron, no better than the child killer. Now here is your Baby Eichmann Award, now please go choke on it in your corner of stupidity.

"Let's stop treating urban violence like a moral issue, let's start treating it like a health issue".

Sorry Jenny wrong Country be it McCain or O'bama leading us. The misfortunes of these children will continue to be the only economic boom in the U.S.

Q stands for "Queer", and it's something of a popular designation. I tend to simply call people by their names, not their orientations, but in this case it's short hand.

thanks, and I know I'm off-topic here, but this confuses me. What's the difference between queer and gay? I was under the belief that they were somewhat interchangeable.

No, Rattida that's just an example of how creatures like YOU put social blinders on your cow face to avoid what's going on in the growing dark underside in urban communities of "your" America

Yea what "we" know is that you are a pompous moron, no better than the child killer. Now here is your Baby Eichmann Award, now please go choke on it in your corner of stupidity.

For the love of all that is holy, will you stop with the stupid name calling of other posters, please? It adds nothing. Your ideas stand or fall on their own. Some of us can debate and exchange ideas, and do so in a heated manner, without calling each other names. I suggest you learn how to do so.

And, besides, I would love to run into you and have you try to equate my idea with giving the death penalty to thug killers who can't shoot straight as being the same as supporting racial-superiority theories and the genocide of millions (and it's not even your own words, but Ward Churchill's, the whole Baby Eichmann bit.) Calling me a Nazi, a member of the death-camp structure, is offensive, even for you. Trust me, you would not do that in person, or you would not hide behind the Internet here.

What's the difference between queer and gay?

Preference really. I know some more politically active people like Queer as a term because it's more 'aggressive', the chant from the 80's and 90's "We're here, we're queer, get used to it". There's an element of reclaiming the word too.

Homosexual is very clinical, gay is pretty neutral.

I'm not surprised that the resident social experts on here are deflecting blame from the idiot involved in the shooting and passing it onto society. Hundreds of thousands of people - many of which in the same socioeconomic position as this guy - ride CTA buses every day. The overwhelming majority of them don't end up shooting somebody on the bus over an argument. To blame this on society, homophobia, powerlessness, etc. is just ignorant.

To blame this on society, homophobia, powerlessness, etc. is just ignorant.

How profound.

Societal forces don't excuse individual behavior. No one is arguing that, no one sane. The argument is 'how can we address these problems on a larger scale?' and dealing with broad trends and issues is a way to do that. An after-school program might prevent 50 kids from going a bad route, attempts to educate poor young black men on alternatives to violence in resolving conflicts or getting them into job training might stop a few dozen more. But because it's preventative and not punative the loud and loutish among us will call it "soft" and demand more prisons and more cops as the only solutions. Y'know, ignorance.

Very good, if obvious, point.

Don't be unpleasant.

Everyone on here is tired of nonsense from me and surely from you. Do better.

Uhm Matilda,

Ward Churchill didn't mean/define "little Eichmann" -his exact term- as supporters of "racial-superiority theories" and the "genocide of millions"
nor did he call them Nazi's or members of a death camp structure per say. He was talking about American apathy and ignorance to what the American power structure is doing to poor folks both here and abroad. This is the exact way I used it. And I would stand by my remarks both in person and on the internet.

And you say that Albany made and "obvious point" but these are points you are never able to make. You are against "populism" yet cloak yourself in it as part of your current cyber identity so that you can be welcomed and raise a shot and a beer with Jimbo and the rest of the Bridgeport crew

Spook: You called me a death-camp functionary--or, I'm sorry, someone just like him--for calling for the death penalty against apparently nihilistic killers who murder innocent people. And then you, as you typically do, call someone ignorant who does not share you psuedo-revolutionary view of the world. (Notice the word psuedo--that is key there, Spook.)

Besides being offensive, the Eichmann reference makes no sense in this case.

Perhaps you were so bold because you are used to arguing with people who are ignorant of history, or who can't think critically. You can disagree with my views all you want, but saying I am like Eichmann 1) betrays your lack of knowledge about the Nazi state and its workings; 2) serves as a shortcut to thought and analysis.

"Bridgeport crew"? What on earth are you saying? Or, am I actually supposed to be insulted by that? Again, you swing for the fences and miss. I can't imagine I've been to Bridgeport in more than a year.

And I would stand by my remarks both in person and on the internet.

Uh, you didn't say that in person, and we both know you would not toss out such a reckless insult to someone's face--at the least, you would leave a real name here instead of some cheap handle. Trust me, if you saw me in person, you would know what I mean.

So, again, can you engage in debate without insults or name calling? Are you smart enough? I think you are. Let's see.

UPDATE: Playing the video on the Trib site no longer plays a commercial. Matty and myself had emailed to complain that watching the 3 second clip required watched a 15 second commercial each time.

I have no problem with advertising but that seemed rather inappropriate. Plus, I don't think many advertisers would want to be the lead in to surveillance footage of a murderer.

Broomtilda,

why don't you read what Ward Churchill meant when he coined the term "little Eichmann"
Maybe that will help. And I am calling you a Little/baby Eichmann for being clueless, for turning a blinds eye of the type of country we live in that is producing more and more child killers from birth, especially in certain communities or minorities.
I am calling you Baby Eichmann for tossing around a depleted and empty "pull yourself up by the boot strap" lines and having a typical lack of intellectual and social empathy that you share with the racist whites who live in Bridgeport, the white working class Nascar/joe six pack crowd that you idolized.

Instead of asking what does it mean for certain children to be born into a certain zip code, attending certain schools where a culture of violence, self hate and despair permeates. What does that culture produce and how do we deal with it as a society.

And I find your isolated insular looking down name calling death penalty rants insulting to a community that you have not stepped one foot into and probably have no friends in. That's what I call being a moral coward

P.S
And the internet activism award goes tooo(drum roll) Matty and Dopplerd!

Spook: I know what Churchil meant, and just because I see a bigger meaning in being called Eichmann doesn't mean I am ... well, I've lost track of all the names you have called me as this point. And hell, just for the heck of it, you call me racist. Sweet.

the white working class Nascar/joe six pack crowd that you idolized.

Oh dear. At this point I start to feel really sorry for you, as I am quite sure this is not an act--my first thought--but rather evidence of a small mind. Seriously, you really do not know how far off base you are, do you? Pity, pity.

My god, you have assumptions. Pretty brave, as you don't even know me. You really have no idea what I have done or what communities I've "stepped foot" in. If you knew--and it is not worth explaining to someone who already has 100% of the answers--I am sure your head would explode. But hey, you already know, right? That must make life easy for you--already knowing everyone about everyone who dares to disagree with you.

Spook: People who are wise, or who are striving toward wisdom, know that assumptions are an almost certain sign of a lack of intelligence. Clearly, you do not understand this. I suspect that you impress your fellow fake revolutionaries every now and then over beers, and feel pretty good about yourself, but pal, you are just not as smart and pure as you think you are. I advise you to grow up. You can still fight the man without being unwise. Or, you can just not be taken seriously but anyone but people who already agree with you. How boring and useless is that?

In any case, good luck. You need it.

So when something as tragic and serious as this occurs

Exactly. Tragic and serious. Hence, my call for stern punishment of the offender, who clearly does not have any respect for life, as proven by recklessly firing into a bus full of innocents. I fail to see how that makes me morally akin to a Nazi who worked toward genocide, and you've yet to explain your point beyond tossing around a few tired slogans and using terms coined by others. That you can't see how one can be offended by any use of "Eichmann" says much about you, and your understanding of history.

I aim to please ;-)