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Ramiro Guevara, 17, was shot and killed inside V Live, a Logan Square night club, last night after getting into an argument with another man. The man who shot Guevara fled the club after the shooting and police say no one was in custody. About 2,000 patrons were estimated to have been at the club, which admits teens but uses the wristband system to denote who is and who isn't allowed alcohol. [Tribune]
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i had no clue this place existed in my neighborhood. Now i know where all the highschool girls hang out.
SCORE!
I live a stone's throw from the back of that club and regret not petitioning against it. The smoking area, which I am almost certain is illegal, is a roped off corner of the CVS parking lot and results in trashy chicks and drunk fools screaming all hours of the night.
I have seen cops out there and they have no effect on the crowd. One night, long after the club closed, a man was screaming that the "pigs are f**king me in the a**" for an hour while the police officers just watched him pull his pants down and moon them repeatedly.
V-Live has turned a nice neighborhood into a ghetto.
Logan Sqaure was ghetto before it was "nice". Sounds like some of local youngsters weren't informed of the new white people moving in.
Yeah that's funny. I can remember watching amateur boxing in a nightclub in that building back in the day.
Well, it's quasi-Logan Square. This is essentially at Armitage/Milwaukee/Western, which these days is pretty Bucktown-ish.
I don't know that I would ever would call this particular stretch of Milwaukee a nice neighborhood. That CVS has been a pit since it was an Osco. Weird things have always happened in that parking lot.
based on their website pics, looks like this is where the losers who get turned down at rhino, manor, etc end up at.
This place should be closed just for the effect that it has on traffic. Milwaukee isn't that great to begin with, but ever since this place opened traffic has been crazy there every time I've tried to drive past at night. Cars stop dead in the street, and both valets and patrons walk out in front of cars without looking constantly.
I never knew it was an all ages club. That's even worse.
I too live a stones throw from V Live. This summer it became almost impossible to sleep with the windows open (I've gotten used to the blue line) because drunkards would spill out of the club from 2am to 4am yelling and fighting.
Fuego isn't even that good, I wish the place would close. Btw, since no one's mentioned it, really sad to hear about this kid.
Do they serve booze there?...cuz the story says the guy was 19. Seems like that's enough of a reason to shut them down.
I mean 17. Even worse.
nope, it appears to be an all ages club.
"...which admits teens but uses the wristband system to denote who is and who isn't allowed alcohol"
I wonder about the legality of the all-ages thing. Can an all ages club be open until 4am (5am on Saturdays)?
Can an underage patron be in a club at those hours on a weeknight?
Besides the obvious tragedy of a teenager being killed, I know that these other factors put that place's liquor license in real jeopardy.
Not that that will make me sad. I live a few blocks from that club and it's a nightmare on the sidewalk/street outside of it. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that something like this hasn't happened sooner. They keep a long line outside and the people waiting in it always seem to be having a disagreement with each other/any passing pedestrians/squad cars/passengers in cabs. Mix that with the booze flowing inside and in increasingly cold temperatures outside and folks are bound to become more than a little testy. Not to mention the loud, mean security guards and the valets with no sense of the traffic around them.
Yeah, that poor kid, but that place needs to step up their crowd control or just go away.
Wait...can a nightclub in the city do that (issue wristbands for legal drinkers and serve alcohol while letting everyone in)? I know concert venues can, which is a whole different scenario, but a NIGHTCLUB? If this were true, why aren't they doing this all over the city?
Prediction: In the wake of E2, this club will close down soon.
2000 people? On a Wednesday night? Wow.
That's what I was thinking!
yea,Thugs,Drugs, and Thughugs for Thugs only!
You gotta love Chicago. The same city that delayed Mike Roeper's opening of the restaurant addition to the Hop Leaf for months goes ahead and sanctions neighborhood-killing shitholes like V Live.
The source said the club allowed patrons under 21 to enter the club but were provided wristbands that barred them from drinking.
Wow ... if this is true and not the other way around, I'll bet NO ONE underage was drinking in that place.
Yeah the wristbands should be for those drinking. And big black X's on hands of those who can't.
I too am shocked that 2000 people were there on a Wednesday. Or frankly anyday. That place Fuego lookse huge, I can't believe the building has that much more space for 2000 to be there and not be in Fuego.
I live close to this club and I did send a letter to the alderman when they notice came out about the club applying for a liquor license. A few years ago there was a different club in the same spot but owned by the same people. It brought so many problems and I was so happy when it closed. So now how long until this one is done?
Wait loud drunks on Milwaukee ave? That's like the m.o. for the place, ain't it?
Since I can remember that stretch has always had nice and loud nightclubs.
Tania's, Tropicana, Obrit, El Baron Rojo, etc...